For the past 3-4 months I have been encountering Apex Predators and players far above my skill. It happens every day I play Apex, so often that I can't even keep count. It has started to take away from the fun of the game and competing against players of the same skill set. I was wondering if matchmaking will be fixed or at least improved?

@skullcrusher907 1.78 is nearly double the average KD. The vast majority of players struggle to break a KD of 1.0, more than 50% have KD's in the .8 to 1.0 range. Their average damage? It's below 300..Above average players will have KD's in the 1.0-1.3 range.. Above average probably being the top 25% or so. 1.78 is probably top 1-2% of Apex Players.Fairly confident you could make it up into Diamond or Master if you were grinding ranked and could find a decent team.I think you're better at the game than you realize. The only difference between you and most master/pred players is that they grind ranked, they might be slightly better but the difference is minimal. There is one person on the forum who has a KD of 9 and plays in the ALGS... But there are only a handful of players like him. Even some of the more talented players who make it to master or pred only have KD's in the 2-3 range. You're extremely close to that.

@DarthValtrex @skullcrusher907But what about this article then?https://www.essentiallysports.com/i-dont-really-identify-our-system-as-sbmm-apex-legends-developer-explains-how-sbmm-alogrithm-works-news-esports/

@hayhorAmazing to say the least.Today, for the very first time EVER. I had a pred in my team.I guess the above were my "last famous words"LOLI'm happy! 🙂

I go against champ squads frequently who have all of the "right" badges and stats, and I'd be okay with that if it wasn't for the fact that my teammates in 8-9/10 games are dumber than snot. And after the game I have to stare at a match report that say that I did 2-3 times as much dmg as they did combined. As Lifeline! And when I get a team now and then where we all do at least +800 dmg then it often results in a win. Even if just me and one teammate do +1000 dmg and the last one 200-400 dmg that's usually good enough to win as well. But the games where I get these teammates are rare, and more often than not it's up to me to constantly clutch or we lose, and it's draining and frustrating. It just can't be right that a sbmm system functions this way.

@skullcrusher907 What is your KD and average damage?

Why am I going against Apex Predators?

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DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@skullcrusher907 What is your KD and average damage?
skullcrusher907
5 years ago
1.78 and 503. Nothing crazy
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@skullcrusher907 1.78 is nearly double the average KD. The vast majority of players struggle to break a KD of 1.0, more than 50% have KD's in the .8 to 1.0 range. Their average damage? It's below 300..

Above average players will have KD's in the 1.0-1.3 range.. Above average probably being the top 25% or so. 1.78 is probably top 1-2% of Apex Players.

Fairly confident you could make it up into Diamond or Master if you were grinding ranked and could find a decent team.

I think you're better at the game than you realize. The only difference between you and most master/pred players is that they grind ranked, they might be slightly better but the difference is minimal. There is one person on the forum who has a KD of 9 and plays in the ALGS... But there are only a handful of players like him. Even some of the more talented players who make it to master or pred only have KD's in the 2-3 range. You're extremely close to that.
skullcrusher907
5 years ago
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Understandable, I have friends who have about 0.7 to 1.0 and they still encounter Apex predators and 4K damage people in their lobbies.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@skullcrusher907 Yeah my KD is 1.15 at the moment, I play exclusively with randoms. I bounce in and out of the top tier lobbies. I occasionally get Master and Pred players as teammates. When I'm having a good night I'll have 5-6 or more rounds getting 10 kills and posting 2k damage. Those nights SBMM bumps me up into lobbies with 3-4 pred trails coming out the drop ship and a few master players.

My big issue is consistency. I think they are simply more consistent with their numbers than I am. I'm sure you have killed preds and master players before, probably more than you realize.

The thing is we all have rounds in which we get destroyed. It's easy to look at their badges and say figures! I should not be playing in matches with them. But honestly, you probably kill them more frequently than you realize.

Take it as a compliment! You're legit good if you're in those lobbies. You might be on the lower end of those lobbies but still.. You'll also get better the more you play in those lobbies, I know I do. I had one night in which I was in those lobbies for a solid 4-5 hours, I finally had a streak of bad games and got put back into mid tier lobbies.. I went on a rampage posting nearly 2800 damage and 10 kills.
skullcrusher907
5 years ago
Forsure, Thank you for the insight. Definitely gives me more understanding as to how the matchmaking works, makes sense that after I get a win I’m in the lobbies with demons the next game
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
Oh and 4k damage badges require a bit of luck or damage farming. I have a 3k and I killed everything I saw, there was no way I could have hit 4k if I had wanted to. I ran out of people to kill/farm damage off.

There are ways you can give yourself a better chance at it, hang around high traffic areas and cross sections of the map. But even still it can be hard to find enough people to hit 4,000 damage.

Another option is to farm damage with a sniper but that's risky business because you runt he risk of running out of cells/batts. Anytime I have a replicator and 170+ materials plus ring advantage I try and farm damage with a sniper looking for that 4k.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@skullcrusher907 Yeah, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. It's a good way to really test your skill and push yourself to the next level. That's how I view it when I'm in those lobbies. If I get melted by preds I spectate the rest of the match to try and learn some tricks I might be missing.
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@DarthValtrex @skullcrusher907

But what about this article then?
https://www.essentiallysports.com/i-dont-really-identify-our-system-as-sbmm-apex-legends-developer-explains-how-sbmm-alogrithm-works-news-esports/
skullcrusher907
5 years ago
I got 2,999 damage :/ as my highest right now, honestly I just get on to have some fun after work and relax but getting destroyed fairly often gets annoying I have had to adapt though, I’m starting to become what I seem to destroy