Wingman and the Peacekeeper
Edited by CM Alright I have never felt the need to delve into the EA forums, been through bf 3, 4, and hard line, never felt the urge to get a message across.
The Wingman, is broken. Accurate...
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??? It does very nearly the same damage long range, what game you playing? Not to mention dead set accuracy? Damage absolutely should depend on type of weapon, you're right! The revolver shouldn't do nearly as much damage as the DMRs in the game!
I have given plenty of other reasons as to why it's overpowered in its class, as have many others. Try again 🙂
I have given plenty of other reasons as to why it's overpowered in its class, as have many others. Try again 🙂
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:
??? It does very nearly the same damage long range, what game you playing? Not to mention dead set accuracy? Damage absolutely should depend on type of weapon, you're right! The revolver shouldn't do nearly as much damage as the DMRs in the game!
I have given plenty of other reasons as to why it's overpowered in its class, as have many others. Try again 🙂
And it doesn't do as much damage as a DMR in general. Also, it's not as accurate at long range unless you're cheating. Have you ever shot it? I just tested it in training and it has a wide pattern at first target range. So, wide target, short range, what do you suppose happens at a long range?
And it's still easy to dodge...
Miss the part that says nearly? Or..?
Yea, I play plenty thanks 😂😂 it's plenty accurate long range I have 300m kills with the thing, it's absurd. It doesn't have a wide fire pattern at all, you just need practice like the rest of the sweats in the game. I can go all day getting the odd death from everything else. But ring squad wiped in two seconds by one dude and his wingman is another story.
This is why I don't come by the forums often, I address a problem that many others share with one or two particular guns and you have people jump in with 3 hours in the game judging the sincerity of your comments, but not actually reading them, apparently.
Well, first of all, you obviously don't play that much if you're here complaining about a weapon. Secondly, the gun does have a wide pattern and I've tested it. It's not difficult to recreate, and it has nothing to do with your claims of anything. In fact, you can test it in training, by rebinding the fire key to the up arrow and rapidly tapping it. No mouse movement involved in that... Lastly, you getting wiped by other people in the ring constantly is not anyone else's issue. It just sounds like you need more of what you've already claimed to have done 'plenty' of.
I actually test things before I make claims about them. I don't just run on the forums in a huff after losing a game and then freak out when someone doesn't agree with me.- the way to fix the wing man is probably slowing the fire rate
Move the Wingman to be crate only Legendary weapon - it's way too strong for a common loot and nerfing it would make it injustice.
Peacekeeper should have slower rof, and use energy ammo since when we're reloading it you can see we're loading it with energy type mag and somehow it consumes shotgun ammo.- Your obviously having an issue with your own gameplay, peacekeeper is very inconsistent on moving targets and I see where your trying to go with the wingman but strafing is a very useful tactic. Dont cry nerf because that's what's beating you or if you do cry nerf actually come up with a well thought out balance point. In my opinion the headshot damage could be lowered to 90 with a skull piercer equipped body dmg should be like 35, 2 tapping people to the head is too rewarding of good aim but that's just it, you have to hit your shots and nerfing the skill cap never works for games just look at fortnite's skill cap nerfs and balances rather than easy patches. 3 headshots is rewarding good aim but keeping the gun useable. Just my opinion.
First of all, *you're.
Secondly, my gameplay isn't the issue, with over 4000 hours in cs and being able to evade shots extremely well in this game (only 250 ish hours put towards it so far)
As you literally just stated, the damage is far to rewarding with something that can be nearly spammed and have amazing acurracy long range tapping. Keep the accuracy the same, keep everything else, but getting two tapped with purple armor is getting tiring. You can't dodge em all, I love that that's half of people's solutions is "just dodge it 😂".
Go up and read again, you'll see me and others list the problems.
@xKR0N1C wrote:
Your obviously having an issue with your own gameplay, peacekeeper is very inconsistent on moving targets and I see where your trying to go with the wingman but strafing is a very useful tactic. Dont cry nerf because that's what's beating you or if you do cry nerf actually come up with a well thought out balance point. In my opinion the headshot damage could be lowered to 90 with a skull piercer equipped body dmg should be like 35, 2 tapping people to the head is too rewarding of good aim but that's just it, you have to hit your shots and nerfing the skill cap never works for games just look at fortnite's skill cap nerfs and balances rather than easy patches. 3 headshots is rewarding good aim but keeping the gun useable. Just my opinion.
Thank you for your post. It’s so invaluable getting advice from people reliant on an OP weapon but unwilling to say the words....everyone who plays this game including streamers know how OP it is. It will be nerfed one way or another so live with it and stop posting as if strategy and tactics override how wingman makes the game 10x easier.
Does not have a wide spread at all.
I fully understand fluctuation from the wing and peace ..... Absolutely lose sense to play anything else. I sometimes choose the combination, but not always and it's too OP .... There's a few weapons, but how does it make sense when absolutely 2 do not have an offense? If the wing does not get a smaller drop and slower fire, then the game gets dropped. Even CSGO has a few weapons and I use every sense ... here? nope
I apologize for bad English, but perhaps most understand ... what I want to say
Anyone that wants to defend the current state of the wingman, simply does not want their crutch nerfed. The peacekeeper as well needs some of its effective range reduced and it's overall consistency addressed.
@xXCA_RageXx wrote:Anyone that wants to defend the current state of the wingman, simply does not want their crutch nerfed.
I barely ever use the gun, and will drop it the second I find something like the 301. So.... that's completely incorrect.
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@Psyrecx wrote:
@xXCA_RageXx wrote:Anyone that wants to defend the current state of the wingman, simply does not want their crutch nerfed.
I barely ever use the gun, and will drop it the second I find something like the 301. So.... that's completely incorrect.
Just because you're bad with it doesn't make it balanced. Again, doesn't matter what point we make, you're just here to argue. all the pros who actually have game knowledge rule it to be overpowered. They're at the top of the game, and have called for the gun to be nerfed. You see how that works?
All the players who have the best accuracy, and most time played, have called the wingman overpowered, and that it needs a nerf.
Let's get back to Shroud since you loved slimming over the point in my message and making fun of the fact I referenced a pro, and because he's such a great example as he's open with his opinions. I made my comment, that the wingman was overpowered for what it is, and the peacekeeper is inconsistent. He made a video not 2 days ago saying that exact, EXACT thing. But I obviously don't have enough time played, I just happen to share the same views as pros before they say it. Right? Right.
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:Just because you're bad with it doesn't make it balanced.
That's ironic, especially coming from someone who doesn't like the weapon for the same reason...
They're at the top of the game, and have called for the gun to be nerfed. You see how that works?
Yep, totally at the top. Because what a person at the 'top of their game' wants it to be nerfed. Certainly isn't someone who's at the bottom, whining about being killed by it.
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:All the players who have the best accuracy, and most time played, have called the wingman overpowered, and that it needs a nerf.
Yes, if you keep repeating it, it'll eventually become true. It's completely not argumentum ad nauseum.
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:He made a video not 2 days ago saying that exact, EXACT thing. But I obviously don't have enough time played, I just happen to share the same views as pros before they say it. Right? Right.
Right. You can agree with someone and still be wrong. Also, which video are you referring to?
Wingman: Remove the Clip capacity upgrade... so less shots, slower reload. And give it a slower rate of fire. Leave damage as is.
Peacekeeper: Lower body damage from 10 to 9, and headshot damage from 15 to 13, per pellet (11). . Slower reload time. "
Bolt": Instead of faster shooting, have it reduce spread of shots- Guy complains about the wingman then states his favorite gun is the r99 which literally has the lowest ttk ingame. Simple fix to the wingman is to remove the extend man attachment from the gun so it cannot spam fire down people. Then you actually have to land shots.
Sure, there's always something that's going to be highest, happens to be an SMG and that's not surprising. All my post is saying a wingman shouldn't do what it does. I shouldn't be getting in sniper battles with it.
Well, either learn to dodge, or come better equipped to a 'sniper battle'.
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:Seeing you started chiming into this thread with videos on how using the wingman incorrectly is bad, and ignoring points being made and simply saying everyone else was wrong "I MaDE a ViDeo"
Keep it up, you make my day interesting. I rarely get to stumble across someone as single minded as you, and in every comment section at that.
Lets see, lets quote your initial post... "The Wingman, is broken as all ****. Accurate as a MF, shoots fast, shoots FAR, and has zero recoil because duh revolver? "
First video proved that to be completely incorrect. It does have recoil. Second video showed that it even had it in ADS. Because you thought that maybe you could look at any minimal hope that you might be correct, and wouldn't admit you were absolutely wrong. And then the video proved that, and now look at you...
Yes, I have video evidence proving your claims completely incorrect. Two in fact. It's so ironic that you would call someone else 'single minded'. Pot:Kettle.
I'm fact minded. Like I said a while ago, I test things before I make claims about them. Yet another thing that could not be said of you...
@Psyrecx wrote:
@Toxi_Kunn wrote:Seeing you started chiming into this thread with videos on how using the wingman incorrectly is bad, and ignoring points being made and simply saying everyone else was wrong "I MaDE a ViDeo"
Keep it up, you make my day interesting. I rarely get to stumble across someone as single minded as you, and in every comment section at that.
Lets see, lets quote your initial post... "The Wingman, is broken as all ****. Accurate as a MF, shoots fast, shoots FAR, and has zero recoil because duh revolver? "
First video proved that to be completely incorrect. It does have recoil. Second video showed that it even had it in ADS. Because you thought that maybe you could look at any minimal hope that you might be correct, and wouldn't admit you were absolutely wrong. And then the video proved that, and now look at you...
Yes, I have video evidence proving your claims completely incorrect. Two in fact. It's so ironic that you would call someone else 'single minded'. Pot:Kettle.
I'm fact minded. Like I said a while ago, I test things before I make claims about them. Yet another thing that could not be said of you...Fact minded 🤣😂 buddy I watched your video, there is in fact no recoil, only bullet spread as you aren't ADS. Maybe when you play more video games you will learn how that works 🙂 you'll get there.
Second video (which I'm somehow missing said link for) you have somehow become so bad at the game, you now have recoil on a gun that BETWEEN shots ONLY, it has recoil. You realize what that means right? It means your next shot, by the time you are allowed to shoot again, your cross hair is in the same spot you started. If you still haven't seemed to figure that out I don't quite know what else to do here. Play the game more.
How about I make some videos, as you're very clearly incompetent of taking a point, you'd much rather run from thread to thread being a warrior among warriors. Back in a biiiiiit 🙃
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