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@E9ine_AC“ I have never used a controller on pc and not used a controller on console in over 12 years. I picked up controller plugged into pc. Very first game i drop 3200 dmg and 11 kills with minimal effort. “
Yeah sorry but I don’t believe that in the slightest lol. I know from my time here that you’re very good at the game but you’re just making yourself sound a * by saying that . I don’t doubt that you could pick up a controller and still do well, because you are good at the game - but trying to make out you dropped 3.2k 11 kills with “minimal effort “ just because you used a Controller and that you haven’t touched one in 12 years ? Yeah that just makes the whole thing sound a lie .
Aim assist isn’t aimbot , it literally slows your reticle over an enemy slightly to compensate for the lack of accuracy a thumb stick has . Granted - it helps in close combat a lot more but again still requires you to be able to aim in the first place . You can’t make out has some massive pull or lock cause it just doesn’t otherwise I’d be able to run up to people and not even touch the right thumbstick after looking at them . And surely if aim assist was that good then all of us controller players would be getting ridiculously good matches ?
I started playing in pc lobbies 3 days ago and have had only a single win since lol. I’m not the best at the game but a bit above average with a kd of 2.4 and usually I get between 5-12 kills a game , and again since joining pc lobbies my kd has plummeted hard . Does that mean that it’s because my input puts me at a disadvantage? Nah I wouldn’t say so, I’d just say it seems most pc players seem to be better on the whole and/or I’m just having a bad streak .
And dropping names like imperial Hal doesn’t help you out mate. Just cause he’s a “pro” or whatever doesn’t suddenly make his opinion right . I’ve also played around 11k games but let me guess because I’m not a streamer or haven’t made it to pred I must just be talking * ?
Oh and Put me in a 1v1 against someone like him and guess what , he’d still win every single time because he’s better than me regardless of input methods .
This thread wasn’t supposed to be about this anyway but as you brought it up like that I couldn’t help myself . Idc what inputs people use , you’re either good with them or you’re not and getting killed by someone using a Controller doesn’t mean that it’s because aim assist done all the work . All that being said , I do agree with your first half of the comment about how you pc players don’t have a choice when it comes to crossplay . Matchmaking should always be input based to avoid stupid arguments like this .
In the end though , they both have pros and con but this was simply meant to be about having movement whilst looting on console .
But you are correct both have their advantages and disadvantages which is why I'm quite adamant about removing cross-play from ranked lobbies. There should be no advantages when it comes to that game mode. Pubs I don't even care. My argument every time is in a ranked setting.
- 5 years ago
Everyone knows how busted AA is. AA has no place in a competitive fps. If you wanna have AA you should only be allowed to play with other people who have AA. I have friends on controllers who played m/k for quite a while and they just went back to controller cuz of the huge advantage AA provides and cuz m/k is just so much harder. Anyone who's good at the game and it's honest about it knows how broken and game breaking this aim assist is.
- 5 years ago@E9ine_AC I mean that’s just it though , dropping kills and damage like that isn’t a sweat for you regardless of input . I don’t doubt that you regularly get games like that whilst using k&m so it doesn’t surprise me that you’d be able to replicate that on controller. My point is that Sure aim assist helps , but not to the extent where it gives you some massively unfair advantage and I do get sick of people making out like it’s actual aimbot cause it’s just really not . I mean seriously, try playing with aim assist turned off idc if youre the best controller player in the world you’re gonna struggle . It’s there for a reason because of the limitations using a thumbstick for precise aiming has .
And yes definitely agree there , ranked should not be crossplay at all .- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@MassiveVernon Consoles users are quick to say its not strong its not needed we can play without it. But when someone mentions removing it their tune changes. They then get defensive about it. 60% aim assist. this is literally 40% of off aim bot at someone and insta locking on someone with a in game mechanic of a mini aim bot. While those who are on console and adapted to aim assist not realising how strong it really is inside of apex just dont notice it. Because its what they have had from day 1. I honestly just wanna see a test of them removing AA and lets see how good players are who use AA. I just say this as experience goes on. I have not been playing near as much as i use to because cross-play has taken a lot of the fun out of it for me. All I desire is fair game play.
As for you console users who say AA is not strong then going without it inside our lobbies should not effect you any. =P It will also cancel the need for xims and other type of devices on pc as AA is gone rendering those inputs useless.- 5 years ago
@E9ine_ACI never said I don’t need it in fact I stated just the opposite. Aim assist is NECESSARY because of the limitations using a thumbstick for precise aiming has. I also stated that even if you were the best controller player ever you would not be able to play well with it turned off . I’m not denying it helps, because it’s literally needed . I’m saying it does NOT make you snap to targets , not at all!! It doesn’t reduce recoil and doesn’t give you god like aim and prevent you from missing all your shots! Idk where you people get these ideas from aha .
So again to reiterate; I never said I didn’t need it I fully acknowledge it’s purpose , but it just simply is not what your making it out to be and doesn’t snap to targets or mean you don’t need to be able to aim.
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