Linux players getting banned
Edit: Looks like they fixed the issue causing the bans. Edit 2: EA is reversing bans and sending out emails letting you know. Yay! Hello, I believe myself and a few others got banned for just playi...
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Tried to join the firing range from my Steam Deck (although previously played on a Pop!_OS desktop) and am also still banned. But if @Nutmayr is still banned, that gives me comfort that this will just take time. Nutmayr was on a completely vanilla install of Ubuntu, no launch options, Proton 8.0-3 (same proton version as the Steam Deck), and was also banned/unbanned when this happened 5 months ago
Part of me's been worried that Respawn would have issues with some of the linux gaming tools being used, like Proton-GE, gamemode, mangohud, latencyflex, custom kernels, etc, since those aren't directly from Valve, and in theory might have some way (?) of tripping up an anti-cheat. I just hope they realize a lot of those tools are as common for linux users as something like MSI Afterburner/RTSS is for Windows users (I know from a technical perspective those are very different, but I couldn't think of a better analogy - plus I'm talking purely about usage rates here). Some of those even come pre-installed on some linux distros (a lot of Steam Deck users even use Proton-GE), and especially pre-DXVK 2.0, could provide a much greater performance boost than something like Afterburner ever has (thinking mostly about Proton-GE's DXVK_ASYNC, although thankfully that hasn't been needed/used for months now).
Considering that analogy: If Respawn needed to ban MSI Afterburner users because it somehow interfered with their anti-cheat, could they? I don't think they would, but I guess they could. We're playing on their servers, so their rules. But to do so in a reasonable manner, I'd hope they'd give a heads-up that it's no longer supported, could get you banned in the future, and unban anyone that was banned for using it before they gave that heads-up. In a situation like that, I just hope they'd also give us linux users the same treatment.
Let's just hope this linux banwave is unrelated to all of that (and probably is, since a lot of banned users were on mainstream distros, official Proton, and very simple/no launch options), and that this was simply a Windows-focused anti-cheat change that caught innocent linux users in the crossfire.
If so, according to this r/linux_gaming post, there are proton/wine-exclusive Windows API functions (like wine_get_version) that Overwatch uses to detect linux players (they've had 1-2 instances of accidentally banning/unbanning linux users too). Maybe Apex can also utilize those to avoid this situation in the future, if they aren't already.
I believe that those are not hopefully going to be an issue considering the fact that people use rivatuner and msi afterburner and such on windows too. It could be due to some simple miscalculation on protons end where it accidentally calculates some value to be higher by 1 or something similar (as in movement speed or like in teamfortress 2 servers linux servers give less ammo or something like that).
I do not believe that msi afterburner or mangohud could be used as a banworthy software. Considering both are popular software and I am sure they are aware of them. Also Msi afterburner is used to overclock gpus and such it would probably be really unfair to ban said software. As in would it be fair to ban a certain gpu that is factory overclocked?
As I used a completely stock version of debian 12 without any launch options, Default proton experimental option for proton and was banned. I added a screenfetch of my PC specs.
My personal might be theory could be that something super common like running or moving could trigger the ban due to rounding difference compared to windows.
Like in this case from TeamFortress 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZoo1yAQag
A short video on what I believe could be happening. But then again proton is translating windows calls and I am not very sure if this would be part of the issue here.hopefully they can utilize those kind of tools to try and prevent this from happening again,i think that it could be a specific package that eac does not like. though i have no clue why eac was only triggered on some systems but not others. it could possibly be how some packages are configured. idk I could just be stating the obvious.
Hi, sorry for not writing this last 2 days, honestly checking this everyday is exhausting but still here, since there is not really new cases I'm not doing much.
Just waiting for getting unbanned since the issue is already being tracked on Trello.
The next time that I comment here, hopefully will be celebrating, see ya yall!
- Racsu
- I'd love to get unbanned for the weekend, but seems unlikely. Maybe next week.
Yeah that would be great. I do hope that they find out what the issue is before I get it back, because it could happen again if it's not fixed. Not very funny to get banned a couple of days after getting unbanned (especially if it's the same problem).
- @real_sjattah Most likely they will not unban anyone before this gets resolved. Would have had some time to play this weekend. Shame that I already bought the season pass, now missing on it and the treasure packs ☹️.
- @RacsuChile I was able to join the firing range this morning!
I could also join the firing range!
Tested on my Steam Deck. No emails yet and EA's site still shows an active ban, but everyone said that took a while to update last time
Hell yeah!
I can join Firing range and Duo in Pubs, haven't tried anything else.
I'm trying from Windows 10, too scared to try on linux yet.Edit:
Trios + TDM works aswell!
Edit2:
Gun run + Control + Ranked
All 3 works aswell!
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Good job everybody, happy grinding this weekend, you deserve it!
Also big thanks to @RacsuChile for escalating this on reddit + collecting all the infos!
//Kagedrengen- @Kagedrengen I just tried again on linux. Im unbanned aswell 🙂
It seems that I have also been unbanned. I was able to put in some practice at the firing range again.
- @RacsuChile Thanks for getting everything organized. And thanks to Respawn for supporting to the Linux community.
- Also unbanned, managed to join firing range. This is a nice timing since I have the weekend off for once! Remains to be seen if the issue is permanently sorted or not. Kudos to Respawn, EA should up their game on customer support.
I have been unbanned as well. I spent around 10 minutes in the firing range. I would like to thank @RacsuChile for taking time out of his day to gather all the cases, and I also want to thank Respawn for acknowledging the issue and investigating it. However, I am still worried to play because we haven't received any confirmation from them regarding the resolution of the underlying cause of all this.
Congrats to everyone getting unbanned, sadly seems like I still banned but hopefully this change on the next hour (Hopefully, because if everyone get unbanned except me after all the work I'm burning my pc)
Also thanks to everyone appreciating the time that I take on this.
Hopefully everyone can enjoy the game like before, and again, this could not be possible without you.
With love, Racsu.
- @RacsuChile Just a quick update, if I don't get unbanned on the next hours, and I'm lonely in the situation, hopefully y'all can help me to comment to the dev in the reddit post, honestly I'm kinda scared to not being unbanned yet, if they forgot about my case I cry lol, will suck after all the effort that I put into this...
Hopefully is not the case, I'm scared by the fact that I send a lot of letters when this started, so maybe that is affecting my account...
- Racsu - @RacsuChile I sent about 4-5 complaints at first. I am hoping they just saw the whole list and they were like "oh crap we forgot him". Who knows. If you make a post about it I will try and help eventhough I am unbanned, it would be unfair if you weren't unbanned after doing all this.
Probably I'm not making a post, 1 ban case will not be helpful at all, and I know that most people wouldn't check it, anyway if the situation still the same (at the moment i still banned)
Replying and saying it to the dev here:https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/15uqt7w/comment/jxgwj2m/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Is appreciated, this is making me anxious and ruining my day ngl, hopefully I'm wrong.
- Racsu
- @RacsuChile same here. I'm still banned.
u have been unbanned, excited to finally start playing again. though I only checked the firing range. @RacsuChile hopefully you can get unbanned. maybe there was more than one issue and they just fixed one of them and are working on the other one.
Prioritizing the still banned list here
STILL BANNED USERNAMES (Ea accounts)
- XKubajk
- Waknah
- vaummfowrd04
- Nutmayr
- stryderpilot
- R4csu
- EnoZieo
- Tutur85140
- Tsihi
- Brunolas981
- perracomax
- BrfcFirst
- ip00pyoueat
- enso-slayer
- dummylast
- TpedBread
- sjoe33120
- MrCrahb
- Chrom3sthesia
- pbotzum917
- AlexanderTheBig
- Insomnia1250- @RacsuChile I ve been finally unbanned as well. I'm certainly happy, but the negative impression remains. 3 months ban due to linux bug.
Still banned in my case, I'm checking it constantly, do you got any mail? if anyone got unbanned and the same time (seems like it) is weird that I'm not, idk
- @RacsuChile I did not have any mails. But I am playing the public right now
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