Im going to be dividing this parts. To those that take the time to read & reply to this and continue the convo. I thank you very much as we need to work together as a community.*This list does not include anything we know 100% is coming soonSectionsSpecialistsClans/Platoon SystemHardcore settings issueWeaponsPortal Abilities/Basic Game abilityPART 1: Specialists We need specialist changed into actual classes with restrictions. Medic classes only get medic abilities and able to revive friendlies. Fastest way with less dev turn around time. Using medic change for example ofc. That would apply to all 4 classes. PART 2: Clans and PlatoonsOne part that keeps games like BF4 lasting so long are the clans and milsims on the game. The people paying for servers and getting groups of players together. A clan system is needed in the game badly. They should copy bf3 and bf4 clan system. The emblems bottom part can be the section to show clans and ties into new scoreboardPART 3: Hardcore IssueCurrently hardcore mode makes it where no hud takes away too much. You cannot tell friend from foe and if your flying you end up killing teamates that the kill feed says are enemy even tho they arnt. It also takes away aim markers and pilot details in planes helis and tanks. You cannot aim correctlyWe need friendly markers added, and aim markers kept for assets on the fieldWe also need the big map to be a perm feature even if mini map is offPART 4: WeaponsWe need a larger selection of weapons being added to 2042. Following baseline guns should be added. Reskin of bf4 assets should make time faster to add weaponsM27 IAR, M240B, M249, M82B, M24, MG4, M4, M416, MOD 13, AEK, Famas, ectPART 5: Portal and base server abiltiesWe need the ability to pick our own fireteams, become fireteam leads, swap teams. Server admins need to be able to kick players, team swap people, set a unlimited game timer vs forced to be max of 1 hour. We need server admins we can add and actual abilities of managing the server like BF4 and BF3Team swapping, fireteams and admin control of these too is key. Especially for clansWe need a server browser with a setting in portal to look for actual game modes ppl are hosting such as say i want to run a hardcore conquest large server. People can look for all standard game modes and be able to.play with full XP since they arnt farms. Where fully custom expirences be their own filter and offer the XP cap to stop farms issue all togetherAny questions from EA or DICE i am willing to talk about in effort to save and grow the game in good light and faith for the series. Same applies to all playersPlease expand or give thoughts below

Honestly, the one thing that I like in BF2042 is not having class restrictions (aka the issue of some better guns/gadgets being locked to few one class). We just should not have clowns as our avatars

@Trashfield_2042 wrote:@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:Honestly, the one thing that I like in BF2042 is not having class restrictions (aka the issue of some better guns/gadgets being locked to few one class). We just should not have clowns as our avatarsI liked that role playing part the most about previous battlefields. I mean it's also very unlikely for a sniper to carry around rocket launchers in a real war My beef with most previous BF game is that a recon was shoehorned to be a sniper.In BF4 I could get a carbine, a spotting gadget, sensor balls and a beacon and be something I like better than a sniper. That was lost between BF4 and BF2042.In BF2042 finally one can again be the spotting man with the recon drone and also carry c5 to blow something up and a sensor ball for that extra insurance.

@Trashfield_2042 "A real war". You do realize this is a video game right. It is made for entertainment purposes.

@VRACinque wrote:@kregora yet they knew it would not be well received at all, it's no surprise that their lying trailer hidden them to show only proper military outfit. Hence the question if they knew it will not be received, why the hell didnt they put so much effort in them. Irrational and dumb decisions seems to be the briefing check list of 2042 ^^. @Psubond it's not too far into the game to change this. As many core aspects of the game are utterly wrong, they admitted that many need rework, this would be simply one more to do before the relaunch in summer. Let's face it, this summer isn't an update, it's a relaunch.Beside, people did not settled to this play style, there are way too many strong disapproval. Why we would need what the author said, because "this" in opposition of the specialists, is in the heart of BF. There are multiple demonstrations on the forum on how the new style completely diluted the notion of role and by consequences damage team & squad group effort. Notion that class system built over years. Now it doesn't mean scrap everything 2024 is. there are good ideas. And i do like giving more weapon choice for everybody (for exemple a recon should be able to pick Assault rifle, or SMG). But some bare limits need to be set, especially on gadgets. Now why they won't scrap the specialists, why they came with this idea at first ? Not because it's good gameplay idea. Because the entire idea of specialist was there to make more money. Aka, selling more dumb esthetic for them while surfing in the Battle Royal trend wave. And who know, even sell new specialists that you can only buy, not unlock. Quite a backfire for them, but that's what happen when you just copy some trend that doesn't fit your product without thinking. PS : some youtuber explained that during the close BETA they were just a few specialist, and they more or less matched the class .... so ... the solution was right there. But noooo, let's make 10 characters because it's co🤭OOOoool. i am against restricting gadgets by class. a lot of us have settled into a play style (i have over 400 hours on the game). i like the flexibility we have now. do what you want with the cosmetic side of it but the only people i have seen whining about flexibility are the helo pilots who can't handle getting shot at by rockets. just because we were restricted on gadgets in the past does not mean it has to be shoved back into this game. like i said it is too far into the game to take away the flexibility we have. do whatever you want with the look and the sound of the specialists but don't take away their flexibility.

Many keep bringing up past BF launches and their problems, including their turnarounds. But one thing that was consistent with those games and turnarounds was the original DICE Devs. We don't have those same Devs anymore. We have Mickey Mouse Club Devs now. We have Fortnite, Apex, Candy Crush, and COD copycat Devs. Who have no standing history with this franchise, nor do they care about the history of this franchise. So, unfortunately, the past Battlefield turnaround updates will not happen. They are not skilled enough to pull it off. Hell, they are still trying to figure out how the Frostbite system works. That's why there is such a lack of destruction in the game. I pray I am proven wrong, buuuuuuut......A REAL BATTLEFIELD PATRIOTNot a No-Pats, Note Pad, or No Pants player

Airstriker97

Rising Hotshot

4 years ago

What EA/Dice need to do by the next 2 updates

Im going to be dividing this parts. To those that take the time to read & reply to this and continue the convo. I thank you very much as we need to work together as a community.

*This list does not include anything we know 100% is coming soon

Sections

Specialists
Clans/Platoon System
Hardcore settings issue
Weapons
Portal Abilities/Basic Game ability

PART 1: Specialists

We need specialist changed into actual classes with restrictions. Medic classes only get medic abilities and able to revive friendlies. Fastest way with less dev turn around time. Using medic change for example ofc. That would apply to all 4 classes.

PART 2: Clans and Platoons

One part that keeps games like BF4 lasting so long are the clans and milsims on the game. The people paying for servers and getting groups of players together. A clan system is needed in the game badly. They should copy bf3 and bf4 clan system. The emblems bottom part can be the section to show clans and ties into new scoreboard

PART 3: Hardcore Issue

Currently hardcore mode makes it where no hud takes away too much. You cannot tell friend from foe and if your flying you end up killing teamates that the kill feed says are enemy even tho they arnt. It also takes away aim markers and pilot details in planes helis and tanks. You cannot aim correctly
We need friendly markers added, and aim markers kept for assets on the field
We also need the big map to be a perm feature even if mini map is off

PART 4: Weapons

We need a larger selection of weapons being added to 2042. Following baseline guns should be added. Reskin of bf4 assets should make time faster to add weapons
M27 IAR, M240B, M249, M82B, M24, MG4, M4, M416, MOD 13, AEK, Famas, ect

PART 5: Portal and base server abilties

We need the ability to pick our own fireteams, become fireteam leads, swap teams. Server admins need to be able to kick players, team swap people, set a unlimited game timer vs forced to be max of 1 hour.
We need server admins we can add and actual abilities of managing the server like BF4 and BF3
Team swapping, fireteams and admin control of these too is key. Especially for clans
We need a server browser with a setting in portal to look for actual game modes ppl are hosting such as say i want to run a hardcore conquest large server. People can look for all standard game modes and be able to.play with full XP since they arnt farms. Where fully custom expirences be their own filter and offer the XP cap to stop farms issue all together

Any questions from EA or DICE i am willing to talk about in effort to save and grow the game in good light and faith for the series. Same applies to all players

Please expand or give thoughts below

discussion

33 Replies

UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
Honestly, the one thing that I like in BF2042 is not having class restrictions (aka the issue of some better guns/gadgets being locked to few one class). We just should not have clowns as our avatars
Trashfield_2042
4 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
Honestly, the one thing that I like in BF2042 is not having class restrictions (aka the issue of some better guns/gadgets being locked to few one class). We just should not have clowns as our avatars
I liked that role playing part the most about previous battlefields. I mean it's also very unlikely for a sniper to carry around rocket launchers in a real war
VRACinque
4 years ago
I agree with all you said but to be honest what they need to do before anything else is fix the damn bug mess. Especially in Portal where seems we have bugs long gone on the AOW. It make the game literally unplayable.
- no ADS when exiting a vehicle
- previous bug persist even after respawn, forced to change specialist and weapon to somehow stop it (until the next time you take a vehicle ....)
- can't exit vehicle (need to switch seat of few times to finally leave)
- weapon plus system doesn't show
- weapon plus system show but don't work
- weapon do zero damage
- map change before the end of the game
- vehicle set up not saved
- game setting reset at start
- spawn vehicle outside of the combat zone on Manifest in RUSH ... boom
- spawn position completely * up, spawn far away from point or next to an enemy
- random massive visual glitch screen flickering on Caspian Border as Attacker
However on your list i would add :
- Not only fix the Hardcore mode, but add a proper hardcore mode in official servers. HC is only happening in Portal at the moment thanks to people like us who recreated it. And indeed we either switch off all the HUD for our milsim servers (but then switch off friendly fire), or we have to keep too much infos ...
- Rebalance the gameplay infantry vs vehicle. In our servers we removed the M5C, the Hovercraft, the Aircrafts, and the Condor (by consequence the HIND) as those things are simply a mess. As well as reduced the amount of vehicles. In default official breakthrough servers it's not rare to see the attacker come with 3 attack helicopter plus one or two Nightbird ... why the hell ? (and not in 128 players). And finally disable the call vehicle on your position, no more people camping with tanks on roof
Flavin913
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
What they need is a time machine
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@Trashfield_2042 wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
Honestly, the one thing that I like in BF2042 is not having class restrictions (aka the issue of some better guns/gadgets being locked to few one class). We just should not have clowns as our avatars
I liked that role playing part the most about previous battlefields. I mean it's also very unlikely for a sniper to carry around rocket launchers in a real war
My beef with most previous BF game is that a recon was shoehorned to be a sniper.
In BF4 I could get a carbine, a spotting gadget, sensor balls and a beacon and be something I like better than a sniper. That was lost between BF4 and BF2042.
In BF2042 finally one can again be the spotting man with the recon drone and also carry c5 to blow something up and a sensor ball for that extra insurance.
larry_54235
4 years ago
@Trashfield_2042 "A real war". You do realize this is a video game right. It is made for entertainment purposes.
SlowStreeker
4 years ago
Your ideas make sense but they will not listen. We can expect some form of major update in March but until then...I am out as well.
I uninstalled the game today and will check it out in March again....only if they actually put some effort in to fixing redicilouos bugs and balancing...
kregora
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye I remember in BFV there was the idea to add more Archtypes / Combat Roles like the planned Recon - Paratrooper.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/f0udhp/you_remember_the_third_archetype_for_the_recon/
The BF4 class system was very versatile, the weapon progression system was very bad though.
People always say, that classes are better, without mentioning which class system they refer to.
The BF4 class system is very good, but the class systems of BF2, BF3, BF1 and BFV are in no way better than specialists.
Sometimes I think people want to be able to tell people how to play their class, like "give me ammo", why don't you place your "spawn beacon".
I remember people got irritated when my BF4 recon used a carbine, motion sensors and T-UGS loadout, or a BF4 support with MP-APS and claymores.
I believe what most people miss, are the archetype/meta combination of the classes they believe to know.
With the specialists system, some of the former class abilities moved to become weapon attachments, like all under barrel attachments, unique to BF4 assault class.
Or the revive mechanics given to each squad member, and the team revive ability take from the BF4 assault class and put to a supporter named Falck.
In BF2042 the assault class characters have stripped away their former BF4 identity with something new. Maybe Sundance is like a BF4 assault grenadier?
I serviced as a tanker during the 1980th and my standard weapons were pistol, smg and lmg. To put smg and lmg in one class would be something new to the Battlefield series 😉
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@kregora am sure that if the only critical difference with previous good BF games and BF2042 were the specialist system (minus the clown avatars) and the game was properly polished and optimised, BF2042 would had been competing with BF3 and Bf1 as the best received BF game so far
Psubond
Legend
4 years ago
@Airstriker97 wrote:
Im going to be dividing this parts. To those that take the time to read & reply to this and continue the convo. I thank you very much as we need to work together as a community.
PART 1: Specialists
We need specialist changed into actual classes with restrictions. Medic classes only get medic abilities and able to revive friendlies. Fastest way with less dev turn around time. Using medic change for example ofc. That would apply to all 4 classes.

I like the ability to run any weapons/gadgets on any specialist so i am against this change. this far into the game it is too late to take away combinations of gadgets (that's how i see specialists) as people have settled into a play style that works for them. i ask you, why do we *need* what you propose?