Re: The Portal XP Nerf and the Betrayal of "Full Progression" - Targeted Solutions

First, they removed experience from bots. Now they've removed bots altogether. But why? You've already disabled experience in Portal mode. But just leave the bots for those who want to play with them. So, what's your connection to the community?

"I bought this game thinking I could play vs bots like in 2042"

Exactly. Why is there no official single player pve mode like 2042 had. If we had this, we wouldn't even need portal for bots. Until they add a mode like 2042 had, they should just allow the bots. Frustrating.

I'm thinking they have some strange people making these decisions.

Not only that, but, they are now going back on what they advertised we would be able to do. I call that misleading and false advertising, not to mention straight out lying.

CM edit: changed a word - please remain polite

Man who’s the decision maker? Do you not understand that most of us are here only for the bots mode.

Rumors around saying its because these **bleep** want to milk the seasons by getting players to purchase boosts. They could literally sell this for a type of PVE Boost if the rumors are true. Enable the bots back, sell or let us obtain PVE boosts that grant full xp/progression against said bots mode as probably a way forward.

It's them listening to the twitchy run-and-gun K/D kiddies who are stomping their little feet and crying about how "unfair" it is for people to progress by playing in legitimate servers against bots. These are the same whiners that jump around exploiting the game mechanics instead of playing like an adult.

I want a **bleep** refund so bad

To: CM edit: changed a word - please remain polite, Reall???y EA/Dice Just pissed off a crap load of users and I will get a refund this 100% BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When will the bots return? Stop the panic.

gg

what does this mean ?

Agreed, I don't want to panic and was patient when my wife and I would have to spam a host button for 30-60 min a night just to get to play a match. Didn't go online with outrage and tried to give some compassion while they ironed out the kinks with a new game. However ,I cannot even get a basic game of breakthrough with bots - no progression - to work now.

I simple yes we will bring bots back or no we won't would suffice, so I could move on or wait patiently.

I really regret to buy this game instead of borderlands 4. They promising for pve players for play with your way who want relax and chill gameplay, i really dont care about K/D ratio and your stupid pvp who toxic and insulting players. I'm a bit old man, my reflexes and perseption not good as a young. have 2 child, i just want to play 1 or 2 hours for relaxing after bored/tired day, i played a lot bf2042 with just solo/coop mode thats make me happy and relax. Yes pvp make me outrage and angry.  Hell even i miss initial breaktough. All of my fun is gone

Bots were the only mode I was enjoying the game. I am not that good at this against real ppl. It's sad to see they are gone now. I wish I could get a refund. :-(

yeah im pretty bummed out. I learned how to mod games back in the day by path-noding Unreal-1 bots at Planet Unreal for custom maps. Even back then, there was a big audience for it. Was looking forward to getting back to my roots and doing it here, but oh well, lol.

Even BF 2042 struggled with similar issues... and they fixed it in the end.

And now they try to reinvent the wheel... and make things worse and worse... and they think they are listening to the correct people...

They will fail so badly :D I saw sooo many people who quit playing after they removed the bots option.

DICE and EA... once again: People want to have a PVE-like experience. People just want to enjoy playing with their friends or solo. No stress, no drama, just enjoy the game.

It doesn't matter that it takes long. We were not complaining. Against bots it even takes days or weeks to fully complete just a single gun to level 50...

We like to play all kinds of weapons and to master them all.

PVP mostly is about using the one meta weapon everyone is using... because even if you try, there will always be one weapon that is better than the rest.

But this is not us. We have fun leveling and grinding all the weapons, even if it takes long. We would play your game for ages - but against bots.

If you take this away, you will lose MANY players. I think roughly 20% of players or even more will quit your game, rate it to hell, and try other legal stuff to refund, etc.

It will cost you everything.

But we already had a good solution!

Just restore it, or change it so we get like 50-75% of XP on bot servers. There ARE ways!

Listen to us, otherwise you will go down a path of no return...

Not only that but experiences that had bots enabled don't work anymore, i suspect i know why they did it, because there was a bypass for farm where you could kill thousands of bots and still rank up your weapons even after xp nerf, they can't win so they just said "no more bots for anyone"

First, they removed experience from bots. Now they've removed bots altogether. But why? You've already disabled experience in Portal mode. But just leave the bots for those who want to play with them. So, what's your connection to the community?

because people found a way to bypass their xp nerf and still farm even faster with bots 

Disable achievements and weapon upgrades and leave only experience for player rank. Just like it was in 2042.

This is probably the most stupid thing they could do.  Battlefield 2042 is feeling a whole lot better than this **bleep**.  I'm done playing this game, and if they decide to bring it back like how it was or like the 2042 portal I'll consider playing again, but for now I'm good.  I hate playing with people, jumping all over the place like if they were rabbits.  Playing with bots was the only reason I got this game now I can't even play it. This is so ridiculous and pathetic. 

You could absolutely get weapon and vehicle upgrades/attachments vs bots in 2042 in addition to levels. You just stopped progressing before unlocking the final mastery skin for each gun/vehicle.

Thankfully I bought the DISK version just in case. I have sold mine for -$10 yesterday because of this. I HATE playing against human as it creates too much stress. I get killed left/right/centre when I play MP. I hate all these sliding / bunny dancing and so on. I was playing against BOTS, got a few unlock and now with this recent change, I am very disappointed, I regret buy this game to be honest.

We buy the full-featured games, and if the game is good, as BF has typically been--we stay involved. 

But for my group, we love having a dedicated server that provides all the XP and Attachments. So the dedicated server is great, but the fact that you can't get attachment XP on a round with a small group is pretty disappointing. We are almost required to use bots for backfilling because of the 3- to 4-person group. 

Will there be an option to earn XP for attachments in the future on servers with backfills?

I understand the cheating issue, but I don't understand why turning off XP for attachment rewards is necessary. 

If your purchasers want goodies ranked alongside their progression, how is that similar to a cheater?

Do you claim that playing the game in a bot backfill is cheating? 

If you pay money for the game, why would you prevent parts of the game to your paying customers?

In fact, the BETA had this feature, and after purchase you turn it off, sadly as a dedicated BFer, it saddens me that the position is we built a great product, but you now must play the way we want you to play and not the way the customer wants to play. 

Skippy

And the server browser? That they said would be included.......

2042 brought in cross play and forced us to play with people from all over the world regardless of ping. So like many here I only ever played 2042 PVE the connections are so inconsistent playing against players was next to impossible unless they had their back to you and were stood still.

Single and coop mode has gone.....now bots have gone and there is no server browser and the only choice is the Mickey mouse servers. 

This game is going to get boring very quickly. This is from a battlefield player from all the way back to BF2. Played 100s probably 1000s of hours. If I knew this is what I was going to get I would not have bought it. 

Is there a money back option?

Erinnerung an alle in Europa: Dies verstößt gegen die EU-Richtlinie (EU) 2019/770 und die Richtlinie 2005/29/EG, was bedeutet, dass Sie eine volle Rückerstattung erhalten können, unabhängig davon, wie viele Stunden Sie im Spiel verbracht haben!