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Beavertailz47's avatar
Beavertailz47
New Novice
14 hours ago

Paid hosting servers

EA_David​ why wont EA let us rent servers and give multiple people admin access to servers? IE letting clans and teams renting servers from EA and let us control the servers. 

 

 

 IE. I'm in my clan's servers now and there is only 1 admin per server, we have to get ahold of the host  admin to kick people. There is a LOT of QOL changes that need to be addressed.

 

Admin controls, private server hosting, or EA hosted servers that we can rent. auto balancing teams for starters

7 Replies

  • Ty_Ger07's avatar
    Ty_Ger07
    Seasoned Hotshot
    3 hours ago

    The portal servers already give you the ability to kick, ban, restart map, and start next map.

    The only real things missing is the ability to add more admins, and manage teams. I don't think it would be hard for them to add those features to portal and in-game.

    Spectating was always a game design thing; they should consider adding it either way. Screenshots were useless since people used cheats as an overlay, so that isn't missed. Team balance was a plugin, if admins didn't want to move players manually.  Theoretically, we already have the ability to team balance by adding it as a script or block program; only problem is the performance implications and the generally bugginess that sometimes happens with rules not triggering or terminating randomly in the middle of a triggered rule.

  • iLuckyBrad's avatar
    iLuckyBrad
    Seasoned Adventurer
    4 hours ago

    Ty_Ger07​  

    Yeah, I pretty much only played on console back then didn’t do much on PC, I did play some on PC just not a lot. For us on console it was literally just rent a server  → set the rules/map rotation/banner → done. Super straightforward. I always assumed the PC side worked the same way and used that same rent/configure setup, since I thought all the old BF2-era stuff ended long before BF3. Not saying it isn’t possible, I just wasn’t really aware of how different the PC side was back then.🤷‍♂️

  • ghostflux's avatar
    ghostflux
    Seasoned Ace
    5 hours ago

    In the past, hosted servers required official hosts. And license deals. And rcon. And leaks. And pirate servers.

    None of these things would be an issue. The entire network infrastructure has been abstracted away by cloud service providers like Amazon Web Services. EA could act as an intermediary, just like they do right now with Portal. The only difference is that they'd have to expand the tools to manage the server in-game. You know, the usual stuff like the ability to ban, kick, votekick, manage teams and spectate.  

  • froggythe's avatar
    froggythe
    Rising Adventurer
    7 hours ago

    Real servers you can rent  And have good admins would be nice.

    But ea should have real time admins   already.    Red flag all cheaters.

    Heres the problem cheaters can rent servers too . I say let them and ban them fast,

  • Ty_Ger07's avatar
    Ty_Ger07
    Seasoned Hotshot
    8 hours ago

    This series was dead to me after BF4, so I can't speak for BF1 or BFV, but what I said definitely applied to BF3, BF4, and Hardline. I rented servers for those games.  I also contributed with thousands of lines of code over on myrcon.net (formerly procon). Those games were provided by authorized providers, had rcon control, and did have pirate servers that operated from leaked code. DICE hired the guy who created procon, and later they moved away from that model towards something they could do internally via webpage; I believe for the reasons I stated.

    Giving us access via godot and giving us portal for free is amazing. Someone had vision and created something amazing. But the corporation is fumbling that amazing thing HARD, and has chosen to almost destroy it. I would give them no money for their wreckage. They could take it away tomorrow, for all I care. It is basically dead anyway for anyone who wants to do anything other than what the game already provides. And what the game already provides is nothing that you should pay extra for to provide a duplicate 'clan server' of.

  • iLuckyBrad's avatar
    iLuckyBrad
    Seasoned Adventurer
    13 hours ago
    Ty_Ger07 wrote:

    In the past, hosted servers required official hosts. And license deals. And rcon. And leaks. And pirate servers.

    I'm not sure EA wants all that. I think they want total control of the servers and who get access to the code and commands. They theoretically could add what you want, but it would need to be another field in portal that you could enter as an array of authorized usernames or something.

    What?  You could literally buy / rent a server in BF3 /  BF4  /  BF Hardline  /  BF1    /  BFV .

    BF3, BF4, and Hardline had full-featured rentable servers with none of the issues you listed: no licenses, no rcon, no external hosts, no code exposure, no pirate servers. You just rented a server, configured it, and played. That whole licensed hosts, rcon, and pirate servers era only existed back in the BF1942/BF2 days, not in any modern Battlefield.

  • Ty_Ger07's avatar
    Ty_Ger07
    Seasoned Hotshot
    13 hours ago

    You want to pay them money for the opportunity to add more admins? Couldn't that feature be added for free?

    In the past, hosted servers required official hosts. And license deals. And rcon. And leaks. And pirate servers.

    I'm not sure EA wants all that. I think they want total control of the servers and who get access to the code and commands. They theoretically could add what you want, but it would need to be another field in portal that you could enter as an array of authorized usernames or something.

    Personally, with how poorly they are handling the bot farms and xp issue and how badly the servers are performing, I would never pay money for something that is not guaranteed to solve the current issues on that front.

    Like, really, how hard is it to revoke approval for bot farms they previously approved? Bot farms are STILL one person start, full XP and full unlocks, and destroy global server performance by making one whole server of 64 slots wasted on one human player. How hard is it to make every other server 1 person start with full XP? So the experiences EA pretends to encourage can actually be competitive, populated, and discovered by others? No one who is currently being punished for their legitimate empty server has anything close to damaging as the bot farms EA pretends to not condone. EA is a AI intern with a bunch of bosses with fingers in their ears.

    They have broken promises and broken trust. They don't listen to their core. They have shown that they are incapable of even attempting to achieve their stated goals. You think all they need is more money? I seriously question if anyone is even listening or thinking. And I wonder if the talent has already moved onto another project. It seems the people in the source code now are not the ones who originally understood it.

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