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RavagerZero
Rising Newcomer
2 months ago

Suppressors should have negative aspects

Pretty simple really, given the insane utility of suppressors in BF6, hiding you both in-world, and on the minimap >15m away.

I'm not asking for downsides because I think suppressors are OP (they're not). I'm asking because I want to see more build diversity on weapons, especially with the other muzzle attachments (brakes, compensators, etc) after suppressors are unlocked. But currently the tactical advantage outweighs everything else.

The two current "downsides" are really weak—suppressors cost a lot of attachment points (20-30), and they usually unlock quite far into progression. Both of which really aren't downsides. The latter only requires you to use the gun a bit longer. As to the former—only once have I found a build I liked that could not fit a suppressor along with all other kit.

Okay, ostensibly they impact hipfire ratings as well, but as hipfire accuracy is generally god-awful in this game, that's really not an impact (except maybe on SMG/PDW).

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I personally think it would make sense if suppressors affected bullet velocity, or damage falloff, or possibly both, in significant ways, making them less useful long-range, open field combat, and aimed more towards CQB and interior work.

Alternatively, suppressors could lock out other attachments—maybe limit it to standard and/or subsonic ammo, and scopes with no more 3x magnification. Maybe suppressed weapons have to include fast mags (where available) due to more awkward handling. Maybe they disable ergonomics upgrades because… balance reasons?

I want small but significant changes that don't nerf suppressors and their intended role, but that help bring other attachments into focus and use.

7 Replies

  • I don't think they need to nerf suppressors in any way. The issue is the downsides of all the other muzzle attachments. If the muzzle brake helped with recoil but didn't 3d spot you, it would be a better choice on some guns. The issue is they added 3d spotting from shooting your gun for some reason. Giving you a massive disadvantage for minimal advantage. Why would anyone take that deal when they can take a suppressor and have massive advantages with minimal disadvantages. It needs to be a balance. 

  • sumsar99's avatar
    sumsar99
    Seasoned Newcomer
    2 months ago

    No. Hell no.
    Nerfing silencers by arbitrarily giving them less muzzle velocity or locking other attachments makes no sense at all, if anything silencers should increase muzzle velocity, 20-30pts is alot, they are not overpowered like you said yourself so why the hell would you put some stupid arbitrary nerfs on them? genuinely horrible take never take up gamedev please

  • I disagree. I believe that some weapons/attachments are just universally better by design. I don't think there should be a drawback for every single thing you decide to use in the interest of balance.

  • I think the attachment point cost is a significant downside. I personally would prefer they balance the cost of certain attachments, rather than having complex penalties. What I've noticed is that I tend to avoid attachments that have too many penalties. As soon as I see "Reduced ADS accuracy" or "Slows down movement speed", I pretty much don't even look at those attachments anymore.

  • RadiantSpectre28's avatar
    RadiantSpectre28
    Seasoned Newcomer
    2 months ago

    Let's be honest, there wouldn't be anything arbitrary about a muzzle velocity nerf. Silencer efficacy with normal ammunition loads are really ineffective at sound suppression. Whether it's a good balance decision or not is out of my wheelhouse and I'm not wading into the topic beyond this: it would not be unrealistic to require subsonic ammunition for significant sound suppression.

    Edit: to hopefully add an actual forum tag to my message rather than a random Hex chain?

  • I only use anything to help with recoil because when I get nervous I just spray everything

  • suppressors already cost so many points that they compete with other good stuff. that is their negative.

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