After installing patch 3, all my crafted shields had their armor rating reset to 0 and every time I try to craft a Darkspawn Alpha Shield and equip it on my main character, it's gone after a save/load. No way around it, it disappears every time. Others on the forum have reported the same issue. Would appreciate a hotfix, since I can't really play my sword & shield guy with half of his weaponry missing.
Oh, and one more thing: Non-crafted shields display their stats correctly, but when equpped, actually SUBTRACT their listed armor rating from Frontal armor, rather than adding to it. I've tried it with my Cassandra and equpping her with the Seeker Shield and a Tevinter tower shield. In both cases, the front armor rating was lower than the overall armor rating.
Yeah...guess I didn't think far enough. Best I can do currently is tier 2 shields with no masterwork. I stand corrected then. ^^
@k3ttch wrote:Oh, and one more thing: Non-crafted shields display their stats correctly, but when equpped, actually SUBTRACT their listed armor rating from Frontal armor, rather than adding to it. I've tried it with my Cassandra and equpping her with the Seeker Shield and a Tevinter tower shield. In both cases, the front armor rating was lower than the overall armor rating.
I had this issue. In fact even with NO shield equipped front armour was lower than overall armour.
I found that if I crafted a new shield and equipped it the armour ratings went back to normal. I could then equip non-crafted shields and have the armour added instead of taken away. I have no idea how this could get so badly broken.
@RLFansKosh wrote:
@k3ttch wrote:Oh, and one more thing: Non-crafted shields display their stats correctly, but when equpped, actually SUBTRACT their listed armor rating from Frontal armor, rather than adding to it. I've tried it with my Cassandra and equpping her with the Seeker Shield and a Tevinter tower shield. In both cases, the front armor rating was lower than the overall armor rating.
I had this issue. In fact even with NO shield equipped front armour was lower than overall armour.
I found that if I crafted a new shield and equipped it the armour ratings went back to normal. I could then equip non-crafted shields and have the armour added instead of taken away. I have no idea how this could get so badly broken.
It's almost like Bioware couldn't be bothered to playtest the damn patch.
I checked my ressources and I was totally wrong. Not only did I use masterwork material in my latest shields, but I also used very good metal ressources I will have to collect again or otherwise my replacement shields will be weaker. Damn!
So...24 hours later and it seems as if Bioware did not grace us with a hotfix. I guess this bug is too small. -.-
I have similar problems too.
- Non-crafted shields, acquired before the patch, now subtract frontal armor rating.
- Shields crafted before the patch shows zero armor rating and, if equibed, do not add any frontal armor rating.
- Shields crafted after the patch shows correct armor rating but, if equibed, subtract frontal armor rating.
do not have results in the case for non-crafted shields that are acquired after the patch yet. And I am not sure how these actually affect combats. Maybe it's just tooltip problems. Hopefully the fix comes out soon.
The way I see this.
1) No, shields do not subtract armor rating. I think this is known issue (before patch) with some talents that improve armor rating to only do that to back armor, and not front armor stat, resulting in lower frontal armor for all warriors (not just shield warriors)
2) Crafted shields before patch have armor rating of zero. Removing such shield adds 5 points to frontal armor since default shield has front armor of 5. If you equip two-handler, you'll lose those 5 points.
3) Crafted shields after patch as well as bought shields correcly add to front armor rating. If back armor is shown as higher, this is due to issue 1
This was all tested in exploration area (not Heaven/Skyhold), when specific companion is slected before going to attributes section.
Sounds reasonable, but I wish there was an official answer to that. Someone at Bioware should be able to sort this mess out and answer wether this is legit or not. Still, the 0 shield problem needs a fix and I hope it comes before the weekend.
The way DAI turned into a "game of waiting" is very disappointing. Bugged on release, bugged after patch 2, bugged after patch 3. Brilliant. -.-
Community AdminHey again,
As previously stated this issue is being investigated at a high priority. As for the testing the studio works very hard on that and I hope you can respect that there always has to be a careful balance between testing an upcoming patch for eternity and releasing it within a timely fashion.
If you just have a look around other threads it can be frustrating if you experience an issue and would like it to be fixed yesterday. However, due to the complexity of software development even seemingly 'small' issues are not necessarily easy to fix.
In summary, we are working very hard to resolve this one as well as other issues as soon as possible but it will require some time.
Thank you,
Nils
Yeah...but...please excuse me, it's hard to believe something like this can be missed. When I would have to test a patch I would probably set up 3 to 4 pcs (for all presets from low, medium and high to ultra). On all of them would be DAI installed with the latest patch or beta candidate and all of them would have a variety of savegames provided by QA that let you quick-cut to main parts of the game, certain areas etc.. Beside the keyboard a rather huge checklist to test the menus, inventory, journal, codex, certain quests, certain game mechanics etc. Yes it would probably take a couple of work-days.
Of course QA would provide these savegames also with variety in mind. So of course some of them would've crafted materials in the character inventories, some looted and some bought stuff. And sure as hell would someone then spot the big "0" in several of the crafted shields.
Another reason I find it hard to believe is this: Patch 3 brought a slider for the size of the mouse cursor. The biggest of them has an obvious graphical glitch at the side of the cursor in the main menu. But in order to see this, one of your guys should've...you know...tested it. A new feature. Just pull the slider and look at the mouse cursor. You put a new feature in, you ought to test it at least once, wouldn't you???
Things like these just leave me totally clueless. I mean you're the experts. Might be my idea of QA above is totally wrong but I doubt I'm so far off in terms of simply having a look - just one - at new features.
