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milanpanopoulos
Seasoned Novice
23 days ago

Ea with drop back 451 press and rant in general

Hey Ea, I don't know if you realise, but fewer people are playing every day, and I don't blame them, especially with the newest meta, which makes it drop back press. the amount of times i have versed someone who literally has every player in defence except the striker is insane How am I supposed to attack in a different way when people are blocking every single passing lane and literally getting triple-team pressed? Most of these players also have counter on, so their wingers just run down the wing and over the top through ball, cut inside and score. It is easy to defend, but the build up is almost impossible to stop, so they are bound to score in a game. I've seen the worst with the 451 and the 41212(2). The amount of times all there players almost have 0 energy since they hold R1 on defence and spam offside trap with team press is insane. You would think when someone is tired they would be slower and wouldn't be able to press as high, and make mistakes, but of course EA didn't think of that, so a player of 25% energy is still able to defend a player with 60% stamina and be able to catch up to the player even if they were 1 on 1. The drop back may be worse in all honesty; we need to find a way where people can't just win by having their players press as soon as they lose the ball and everyone drop back to the edge of the D. We need to somehow fix this, or the only people left playing this game will be these kinds of players who are reward hungry.  You have patched the game 5 times in the last two weeks. I also understand the casual player, which I consider myself, won't be winning as much with this ai defending and pressing and dropping back, but the casual players who just enjoy playing the game will quit since it is not an enjoyable experience. I haven't really spoken on AI defending, but I feel like everyone understands how annoying it is to verse these kinds of players who just hold the CDM and block every passing lane. It is like EA expects everyone to know every skill to get past the defence or do a Van de Ven run. You have released a product that shouldn't be released since you keep changing it and keep updating and patching the game. I understand the audience wasn't happy about the defending, but it's your product. If you like it the way it is, you shouldn't change it since someone else is complaining about something they can learn, like defending when the game came out and the best players were incredible at defending, and last year's AI defenders were terrible. AI defending, dropping back, and triple-team pressing shouldn't be rewarded with more wins but instead give them motivation to learn the basic mechanics of the game. If I made a board game and people said it was too hard to win since someone knows the best way to win in a competitive way and can easily beat a person who just got it and is learning the basic instructions of the game i would say practice makes perfect and give them tips on how to win by themselves. I wouldn't change the product. 

There are multiple ways to try and fix this and combat the upset players in the community. One way is just to make the beta an open beta so everyone can test the gameplay and give you pointers. If you are going to make the beta closed and make extra steps to get accepted into the beta, of course only the diehard sweaty fans would go do EA playtesting compared to a casual who doesn't even know what that is and just wants to play a football game.

 

The Key is that this is a football game where players want to recreate goals they would want to see or score in real life

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  • Mickyb1064's avatar
    Mickyb1064
    Seasoned Rookie
    23 days ago

    I totally agree with you M8 ,online play is rank ,low blocks and players pressing the whole match ,my opponents seeming switching players without ever being out of position or getting tired.

    Don't think I'll venture online again ,it's so bad seems a lot of this community are toxic on a whole new level ,game isn't fun online ,rewards are **bleep** SBC are so overpriced .I feel this will be my last go at the franchise ,it's just not worth the effort .

    Oh and what happened to the we listened to the community ,we did this we did that ,did **bleep** all I can see .

  • EA have a duty when claiming this is a football sim to allow a football sim experience. This is where I get annoyed though. Hear me out. Ultimate Team is not realistic. I does not need me to bang on about gender mixing now being realistic. It isn't. So that ends Ultimate Team there. It is an arcade mode with unrealistic play. Period. - Anyone who complains about UT and realism in the same sentence is just deluded.

    While covering online only here. This is where Seasons should be. It should focus on realistic gameplay - Competitive mode is fine for the best part as too many animations and too slow will kill casual enjoyment. However, stupid fast isn't great either and kills any enjoyment as you don't get a moment to think. - BUT. Seasons should allow for good gameplay, played at a nice pace. AI that moves for you BUT, doesn't steal the ball back for you. AI that makes sloppy mistakes - This will keep you switching around and keeping your team in check. Midfield should allow a little breathing space - While of course being able to win the ball back from an opponent since these are around 12min matches. 

    There are a lot of good things in this game - BUT, again, a lot of bad things when it comes to creating the beautiful game. 

    As for some players - You won't ever be able to stop toxic people being toxic. EA can only do so much there tbf to them.

    EA_Darko​ 

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    Mickyb1064
    Seasoned Rookie
    23 days ago

    I see so many complaints on this forum regarding ,game play ,glitches/bugs unfair matchmaking ,online play,poor rewards ,overpriced sbc's and nontent,server issues ,patching re patching .Is it to much to ask to get a playable game with good content ,and rewards without **bleep** us over for more money ,premium priced game should at the very least be playable.I know it can't be all things to all ,but the complaints and issues in this game is honestly a disgrace.good luck to those people who enjoy the game but I feel there probably in the dwindleing numbers.

     

  • Yeah, I was always for keeping defending how it is In the 1st week of the game, the best players deserve to be the best players since they know how to predict attackers and can keep their defence steady and in the right positions. I logged in today for the first time in a week and saw nothing to do, to be honest, I saw SBC, which no one does since they're too expensive. And a game I did play was just unenjoyable with the delay and lag. I don't know what happened with the delay since the start of the year. It felt like the 1st week it felt pretty good, but on console it has just been getting worse and worse to the point where I press pass and then try to skill move first touch with the player I pass to, but the ball does not leave my feet in time, and it cancels out my pass and does a skill move instead. I can see the player base dwindling, and it is honestly just disappointing. I really did enjoy this game at the start, but they keep patching.

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