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Exemplar87
Rising Veteran
13 hours ago

How many packs you need to open according to Ai for a TOTY player.

My maths is pants but here is what AI has said you need to have a very good chance of picking up an TOTY player.

Case 1: Pack odds p=1%=0.01

  • 50% chance of at least one TOTY

n=ln⁡(1−0.5)ln⁡(1−0.01)=ln⁡(0.5)ln⁡(0.99)≈−0.6931−0.01005≈69

So: ~69 packs for a 50% shot.

  • 90% chance of at least one TOTY

n=ln⁡(1−0.9)ln⁡(1−0.01)=ln⁡(0.1)ln⁡(0.99)≈−2.3026−0.01005≈229

So: ~229 packs for a 90% shot.

Case 2: Pack odds p=0.5%=0.005

  • 50% chance

n=ln⁡(0.5)ln⁡(0.995)≈−0.6931−0.00501≈138

~138 packs for 50%.

  • 90% chance

n=ln⁡(0.1)ln⁡(0.995)≈−2.3026−0.00501≈460

~460 packs for 90%.

Case 3: Pack odds p=0.1%=0.001

  • 50% chance

n=ln⁡(0.5)ln⁡(0.999)≈−0.6931−0.0010005≈693

~693 packs for 50%.

  • 90% chance

n=ln⁡(0.1)ln⁡(0.999)≈−2.3026−0.0010005≈2,300

~2,300 packs for 90%.

So what’s “realistic”?

Since most standard packs show “\<1%” for TOTY, a rough realistic range is:

  • If odds are around 1%: ~70 packs → ~50% chance ~230 packs → ~90% chance
  • If odds are closer to 0.5% or lower: You’re looking at 100–150+ packs just to get near 50%, and 400–500+ for ~90%.

There is no number of packs that guarantees a TOTY (you never hit a true 100%), but if by “guarantee a chance” you mean “I want to be heavily favoured”, then:

  • I’d call ~200–250 packs the point where, at 1% odds, you’re realistically “expected” to have seen one, but still not safe.
  • At worse odds (0.5% or less), even that becomes shaky.

3 Replies

  • MDC1991's avatar
    MDC1991
    Rising Adventurer
    13 hours ago

    <1% odds has so many possible variables, you’re simply guessing. For certain packs, I’d imagine the chance is actually around 0.0001%.. simply because it fits the 1 in a million saying, something I’d imagine EA would get off on. But then.. I’m also guessing. There’s no way it’s close to 1% in those packs that state <1% though.

  • Some people open two TOTY players in 10 minutes, some people open nothing from hundreds of packs. If EA doesn't want you to get it, there's no point in talking about chances.

  • I have opened 356 pack, and yet I didn't pack TOTY. This is so bad i swear we pay for this game and toty is about to and still i don't have it. I'm thinkin so much if i don't get this i will not play this game.