Why does it depend which Hero your playing to find an appropriate match? I can be playing as Wallnut finding match after match, then as soon as I play as Solarflare it finds it difficult to match. I'm still the same level. But it wants to find me a match a based on what? As I be playing Wallnut and find a match.. but what? Solarflare it find me a match? I really do find this game fishy.. as I find too often, the cards I'm playing are matched against someone who happens to get the right cards at the right time.. too much luck. Bit like the card draw, why is it my cards do not draw in the right sequence. They often give me the wrong cards at the wrong time, as no environment, or all environment, and no high draw.. but all low draw. If you need photo's to prove my point I'll do it. But, I'm pretty sure there is heavy manipulation by EA/Popcap on match making or card draw or both. Why do I say this? think about it, if Im not winning I might buy cards - well, they .. lucked out there as Im not spending anything on this game since it keeps crashing on my ipad and Tech HELP is no help at all.

There are a lot of algorithms at play in the background in this game.I don't think very much is truly random.Do any long-time players remember when Cornucopia used to spawn The Great Zucchini 75% of the time.Or back before it was called conjuring, whenever you drew a 'random' card, 75% of the time it was the latest event card.Most of these things have been adjusted over time to be more random (maybe truly random), but I still get matched up with specific heroes based on the deck I'm using.*I would very much welcome a developer correcting anything that is incorrect there.

It's just bad luck my friend, this game is based completely on odds. How likely or unlikely is for you to find a match is based on how many players are online at that moment, but from the opposite side.Let me give you some examples.Let's suppose that there are only 10 people in total playing this game. 3 are playing as Plants (you included) and 7 are playing as Zombies.That's why you can easily find a match. There are more Zombie players waiting for a match than Plant players.The Zombie players, tired that they cannot get a match, try switching sides. There are now 7 Plant players (still you included) and now only 3 Zombie players. Now you are going to have some trouble looking for a match.The fact that a Hero makes any difference on the waiting times is just a coincidence. It's not like the devs are intentionally making you wait on THAT particular champion.The other factor (drawing or not a particular card/answer) is also a matter of luck. Think about it this way. If you created a deck with 36 Environments and just 4 minions, you still have a chance of drawing only minions on your opening hand. You can improve your odds by reducing the amount of cards in your deck. (Like, only have 4 environments instead of 8).You still have a chance to draw those cards consecutively, but the chance is pretty low.

I find the issue of crazy draws more in Random than ranked. I do chalk up many of the ranked matches as just bad luck. I do think there are bots in Ranked to keep match making faster but I have no proof.

I completely understand how he feels though....like when you have all 3 and higher cost cards for the starting four, so you tap on rodeo Gargantuar and he spins and comes right back. That kind of thing happens all the time to me too, and I guarantee you that if the issue is trying to get us to spend money, they would have stopped it happening to me long ago.I absolutely hate the "random factor" because it allows for people who have knowledge of mischief, let's just say, to take advantage of the system and blame it on the randomness. But then it makes you wonder...for real.Why have I had to recycle a dozen bananasaurus to date, and yet to see the great zucchini. Or, how I never got Brainana or mixedup gravedigger pr nurse gargantuar when they were super rare, but then of course, in a "legendary pack" I pull my first Brainana! Holy cow! yeah I was pretty chapped, and then about a month ago, I got 3 yes THREE freakin nurse gargs in a matter of a week and maybe 30 packs. And still have not seen a gravedigger... But can anyone wrap their head around the percentages of something like that? Or how about back to back packs where I pulled teleportation zombie. How about those odds?

Let me give you some examples.Let's suppose that there are only 10 people in total playing this game. 3 are playing as Plants (you included) and 7 are playing as Zombies.That's why you can easily find a match. There are more Zombie players waiting for a match than Plant players.The Zombie players, tired that they cannot get a match, try switching sides. There are now 7 Plant players (still you included) and now only 3 Zombie players. Now you are going to have some trouble looking for a match.The fact that a Hero makes any difference on the waiting times is just a coincidence. It's not like the devs are intentionally making you wait on THAT particular champion. -- BUT, what difference does it make if I play as Wall knight, and get no match - but if I play as Solar Flare (STILL A PLANT) and I get a match. It's not like I'm playing as a zombie instead.I understand that there may be more plants playing.. versus those playing as zombies. BUT, I find if I'm playing as certain Hero, I'm being matched to certain Hero's.. I do not find any of it random. I do understand that some Hero's are more attractive due to their cards, and super powers, as well as ticket boosting. The quests for gems also encourage people to play as certain cards, or as certain side's (plants or zombie)The card draw is just pathetic at times - seriously it can lose you a game - again proving no skill but does have the ability ensure you keep playing for longer to get the reward, also ensuring you keep others players online. Or EA/Popcap hope you will buy a pack of cards. The game can be won on the first few rounds in a match - without the opponent having the chance to fight back.As for, getting a new pack - and the amount of legendary, super rare, rare, etc.. The only set of 4 legendaries I have are Garg feast - funny that, considering bad moon rising is more or less the same thing. You can tell which of the cards your more likely to get when the newer cards are being sold, as your more likely to get the older slightly redundant versions.

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16 Replies

Azombioso
8 years ago
It's just bad luck my friend, this game is based completely on odds. How likely or unlikely is for you to find a match is based on how many players are online at that moment, but from the opposite side.
Let me give you some examples.
Let's suppose that there are only 10 people in total playing this game. 3 are playing as Plants (you included) and 7 are playing as Zombies.
That's why you can easily find a match. There are more Zombie players waiting for a match than Plant players.
The Zombie players, tired that they cannot get a match, try switching sides.
There are now 7 Plant players (still you included) and now only 3 Zombie players. Now you are going to have some trouble looking for a match.
The fact that a Hero makes any difference on the waiting times is just a coincidence. It's not like the devs are intentionally making you wait on THAT particular champion.
The other factor (drawing or not a particular card/answer) is also a matter of luck. Think about it this way.
If you created a deck with 36 Environments and just 4 minions, you still have a chance of drawing only minions on your opening hand.
You can improve your odds by reducing the amount of cards in your deck. (Like, only have 4 environments instead of 8).
You still have a chance to draw those cards consecutively, but the chance is pretty low.
Anonymous
8 years ago
I find the issue of crazy draws more in Random than ranked. I do chalk up many of the ranked matches as just bad luck. I do think there are bots in Ranked to keep match making faster but I have no proof.
Anonymous
8 years ago
I completely understand how he feels though....like when you have all 3 and higher cost cards for the starting four, so you tap on rodeo Gargantuar and he spins and comes right back. That kind of thing happens all the time to me too, and I guarantee you that if the issue is trying to get us to spend money, they would have stopped it happening to me long ago.
I absolutely hate the "random factor" because it allows for people who have knowledge of mischief, let's just say, to take advantage of the system and blame it on the randomness. But then it makes you wonder...for real.
Why have I had to recycle a dozen bananasaurus to date, and yet to see the great zucchini. Or, how I never got Brainana or mixedup gravedigger pr nurse gargantuar when they were super rare, but then of course, in a "legendary pack" I pull my first Brainana! Holy cow! yeah I was pretty chapped, and then about a month ago, I got 3 yes THREE freakin nurse gargs in a matter of a week and maybe 30 packs. And still have not seen a gravedigger... But can anyone wrap their head around the percentages of something like that? Or how about back to back packs where I pulled teleportation zombie. How about those odds?
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
Let me give you some examples.
Let's suppose that there are only 10 people in total playing this game. 3 are playing as Plants (you included) and 7 are playing as Zombies.
That's why you can easily find a match. There are more Zombie players waiting for a match than Plant players.
The Zombie players, tired that they cannot get a match, try switching sides.
There are now 7 Plant players (still you included) and now only 3 Zombie players. Now you are going to have some trouble looking for a match.
The fact that a Hero makes any difference on the waiting times is just a coincidence. It's not like the devs are intentionally making you wait on THAT particular champion.
-- BUT, what difference does it make if I play as Wall knight, and get no match - but if I play as Solar Flare (STILL A PLANT) and I get a match. It's not like I'm playing as a zombie instead.
I understand that there may be more plants playing.. versus those playing as zombies. BUT, I find if I'm playing as certain Hero, I'm being matched to certain Hero's.. I do not find any of it random. I do understand that some Hero's are more attractive due to their cards, and super powers, as well as ticket boosting. The quests for gems also encourage people to play as certain cards, or as certain side's (plants or zombie)
The card draw is just pathetic at times - seriously it can lose you a game - again proving no skill but does have the ability ensure you keep playing for longer to get the reward, also ensuring you keep others players online. Or EA/Popcap hope you will buy a pack of cards.
The game can be won on the first few rounds in a match - without the opponent having the chance to fight back.
As for, getting a new pack - and the amount of legendary, super rare, rare, etc.. The only set of 4 legendaries I have are Garg feast - funny that, considering bad moon rising is more or less the same thing. You can tell which of the cards your more likely to get when the newer cards are being sold, as your more likely to get the older slightly redundant versions.
Anonymous
8 years ago
There are a lot of algorithms at play in the background in this game.
I don't think very much is truly random.
Do any long-time players remember when Cornucopia used to spawn The Great Zucchini 75% of the time.
Or back before it was called conjuring, whenever you drew a 'random' card, 75% of the time it was the latest event card.
Most of these things have been adjusted over time to be more random (maybe truly random), but I still get matched up with specific heroes based on the deck I'm using.
*I would very much welcome a developer correcting anything that is incorrect there.
Azombioso
8 years ago
I also remember that it was "kinda" easy to summon a second Cornucopia FROM the Cornucopia that you just played. But I mostly think that it was due to the lack of cards back then. (Less cards mean better odds of getting something awesome)
I highly doubt that the programmers were like...
"HI HI HI, let's make the code in a way so that when a Cornucopia is played, 75% of the times will spawn a legendary."
"YES!! And when it spawns a Legendary plant, 75% of the time will be The Great Zucchini"
"Zucchini? But why?"
"Duhh, because I hate aggro decks, and because I can code it that way"
"Ok ok, but what about the other 25% chance?"
"HI HI HI.... it will be... A SECOND.... Cornucopia.... BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!! >:D"
BlazinsZ
8 years ago
Interesting,
I have never received a second Cornucopia. But a lot a times i get Zucchini and Dark Matter Dragonfruit, but I think it is very influential that there are few amphibian plants. But it is true, you almost always get another legendary with Cornucopia. It's great
BlazinsZ
8 years ago
talking about Cornucopia, don't bothering you that a first Pineclone change the legendary in the other lines? It's kind of like you're lucky, but you're not lucky. XD
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
I remember those times.. as I was playing then also..
But yes I think they did use those legendaries to be spawned in those incidents - why? because of Garg Feast, 3 powerful Zombies summoned perhaps the solution was to get 2 legendaries in that instance to fight back? So yes, I do believe that wasn't random, but programmed. Bit like what is happening elsewhere in the game. They the developers think they are balancing the game. But I don't think it is.. it brings in too much random, or (some call it luck) I call it, manipulation. I alter my deck due to the current meta being played - and then my opponent gets cards that no way did he have in his deck, as they do not come with that Hero, or card.. But hey, I'm supposed to be able to deal with that? when I can in no way prepare a deck to fight against it? That means skill doesn't count.. but card drawing is everything, for luck to win. I'd not like to rely on luck.
daalnnii
8 years ago
In a sense, but that was a problem all the way back to when we were playing with physical cards.

The skill in these games has always been building a deck that have you the best chance of giving you useful cards, and knowing how to play the have your dealt.

The random nature keeps the game honest, in a sense. If we could all just stack our decks in the exact order we'd like, we'd be seeing the exact same games all the time. And while we would probably be seeing more skillful builds, the skill during the match would be brought to a halt.

It's a trade off