Pea Gatling

Hyper is so awful now. You use it but it acts like it's not even in use until you run, and then once you run you can't fire or shoot anything. 

My biggest issue with the bean bomb is it doesn't seem to shoot out a distance anymore and tends to just fall straight down or maybe one little bounce. It has no movement when you shoot it and I can't really do much with it anymore. 

The hovering pea is cool but yeah it's useless in pvp. 

I swear all the pea's shots are hit or miss now.

Honestly, the pea Gatling is fine we’re it stands.

All the zombie are like beef cakes 🤧 especially on how many super brainz I see while playing turf take over is crazy. Everyone play super brainz cause he’s literally a power house( Op) with his hp being 200, a shield( That he don’t need), a wine up mid range punch(That he definitely doesn’t need at all).

So yea....

Like I said the pea gatling is fine we’re it is, it helps keep zombies off of defended objectives when everyone is just rushing in with super brainz or the all star.

Pea Gatling is something I've been thinking about for a while. And I think it's fine the way it is but...

• It shouldn't be used for long range. I see many people pulling off kills easily from across the map as they're harder to see than snipers. It just happens from somewhere you can't usually see.
• It has no recoil and Aim-Assist makes it a killing machine. It seems like most folks are like bots and have high accuracy for an ability that should require a bit more aiming and skill.

What do I think they should do about it?

• Add some recoil: This would make it difficult to use at longer ranges and also reduce the number of headshots to punish players with bad aim. The recoil won't hinder his usefulness in taking down Space Stations or larger targets.
• Add/change sound effects to make it Peashooters more obvious. Pea Gatling's sound effect doesn't sound as lethal as it should be. To prevent players from camping around corners and being suddenly vanquished, they could add a small sound effect that indicates a Gatling peashooter is nearby.
• Or, instead of adding a sound effect to camping Peashooters, they can add a delay between shooting and spinning up. That would make a Pea Gatling similar to All-Stars gun. When a Peashooter starts spinning up, you hear a sound effect correspondent to that and as a Zombie you'll have a time to react and evade. No more sudden deaths out of nowhere because of camping peas. It also makes no sense that All-Stars gun has a louder sound effect with lower damage but Peashooters have lower sound effects with more damage.

The damage should stay intact with no changes. With all these suggested changes, Pea Gatling would require more skill to use. This would prevent sudden deaths of Peashooters camping around corners or in sneaky locations too difficult to see. I don't think it would nerf Peashooters or their utility, but it would add more difficulty using him.

Good points but I'm ok with the gattling as is.

Fact is you are a sitting duck, easily one shotted by a variety of zombies. I've Iost count of the times I have been ZPG-ed. If the gattling was less powerful it just wouldn't be worth the risk.

I felt the same as all of you when I started BFN, now I watch Pea Gatling take out surprise attacks from the 80’s hero using its rocket ride amongst varies others. I completely understand that there are many balance issues, that’s why I continue to point out the discrepancies with individual characters. I do not believe in continuing to power up other character moves to balance pvp issues. There are already far to many 1 hit kills, that’s why I am all for nurfing the most ridiculous.

Pirates fully charged spy glass shot doing 98 damage is a prime example of this. In relation to character max health, 98 damage from a primary is crazy. These and others are on par with heavy damage moves like ZPG’s, Shuck Shot, bean bomb, ultra ball, imp punt.. the list goes on. Just like Super Brains throwing fists move, a melee monster with not 1 (ultra ball), but 2 ranged attacks with the fists powering up faster/recharged than the timer on the ultra ball makes for a an extremely lopsided game as stated in a previous post above. When all characters are viable online while contributing different skill sets is when you know that there is a fair and competitive environment. 

@ToastedSarnie 

Yes, Chili Bean is meh and the Suped ability is useless xD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYICDWHH3P0&feature=youtu.be 

Peashooter's kit has no faults; it's all useful and powerful. Which is why I think he needs to be looked at.

Gatling has been deadly in every GW game, so I’m not fussed by it. Peashooter is very vulnerable to ranged attacks when rooted, and I feel like the risk and reward of the gatling balance out.

I like @GammaX6’s suggestion of giving it a spin up delay, though. That would make it harder for peashooter to hide around corners and gun down any poor sap who wanders into their line of fire. Or run around a corner, root, and gun down a pursuer.

I agree that pea suped is mostly useless now that characters can sprint. It’s still good for reaching high ground, though.

@jnicol1975 Why don't people mention the fire rate buff of Pea Suped? It's a super powerful ability. Jumping higher also confuses the enemy teams and hinders their aim, making Peashooter a difficult hero to take down, especially since he has Homing Pea, he could out-gun others easily with higher fire rate and splash damage.

I talk about Peashooter from both perspectives, as someone who played him and got 20+ streaks and as a victim. I dislike going against him because he got the cheesy "Homing Pea" which is a Godly Upgrade in the hands of skilful players. I'm sure that Peashooter outperforms all other plant attack class heroes metric-wise.

He needs to be tuned down in certain areas to be on the same level as other attack heroes. Notice that I haven't said "nerf" him or anything. The Pea Gatling suggestion was there as a tune down. The ability itself would remain a viable and powerful ability in the hands of skilled players. Its damage and usefulness would stay intact vs Space Stations and other big targets. It's just that it's unfair when you play 100 ~ 125 heroes and you just can't do anything about it when you notice it late (e.g. around corners, cover, difficult to spot places due to his small size). There is no time to react to counter it, and some players do it from longer distances. With the sprint delay addition, Pea Gatling would become even more powerful.