Re: Not working: Thermal Binoculars, Scan Dart, NV optics, Boba Fett, Lando, Bossk

Update on Bossk. I've tried him out twice in GA for a longer time to see if the bug occurs. I can tell that it has definitely been improved, but it's not 100% perfection. 

Basically, night vision reveals a lot of enemies, but a few times, I've seen players that didn't get marked with the overlay (and thus be incredibly hard to see for Bossk). I've recorded some footages which make it very clear that it hasn't been completely solved.

One match was pretty long and I used the ability many times, got a 54 killstreak lol. These are the more enjoyable kind of tests.

It´s sad! Same problem with me...😢

Plz EA do something!

@DYSPROssium 

Thanks for the tag, but is there any visual effect to show that people have tagged me here? In the main forum we have the notifications icon, but what about here in Answers HQ? That's why this totally skipped my attention.

Well, before yesterday's Dooku's Patch, I was still experiencing this with the Specialist's Infiltration ability and with Boba's Scan, but I can't say about the others as I rarely touhed them. Rey's Insight never ever failed, it was never a part of this BUG AFAIK, as I've been using her regularly since launch and I've never experienced this at all.

Now, after January's 23rd Patch Update, I tested Boba Fett and he is still with this BUG (didn't test any others though). In Boba's case we have the enemies not showing in radar BUG (just like with the Specialist's Infiltration), but also the yellow-orange outline not being properly applied at all (and seemingly independent of the enemies not showing in radar BUG).

I've tested both the binoculars and the night vision attachments today and they are both still not working 100%.

The attachments

I've tested this with the night vision attachments of the CR weapon and although it seems to work better, I still can get enemies in my range in direct sight that aren't marked.

The binoculars

It sometimes just doesn't work and sometimes works. In the video below, you can see this. I try to look through the mountain on Hoth and it doesn't work. Then just before the video ends, you can see that I was able to look through the hill and see enemies. Thus still very inconsistent.

I've tried to better determine when it doesn't work and it seems to happen if you do something like the steps below. Keep in mind that I am not 100% sure of it.

1. Use the binoculars and mark an enemy in direct sight of you (it works correctly here)
2. The binoculars go into its own kind of cooldown. You can still use the binoculars and see players through walls, but you cannot tag players.
3. Get killed within before the cooldown of the tag function runs out.
4. Respawn and use the binoculars. They do not work right now.

@DYSPROssium 

Hey, sorry - as it has been mentioned before me, the tag is not visible anywhere (except emails, which I rarely check...), so I didn't notice your question.

It doesn't seem like that any fix or improvement was made. I could write a list, from "rarely ever bugged" to "100% useless":

Lando's blaster > Bossk's vision  > Boba's reveal (map) > Boba's reveal ("wallhack") & Binoculars > Scan Dart.

I've played a lot as Lando, and it was extremely rare to see his blaster bugged. Same for Bossk, but it happened a lot more, and it's also more problematic, since you tend to activate that ability to get out of a sticky situation - blindness does not help with that. With Boba's reveal, it seems like that the minimap markers are more reliable than the actual wallhack-like reveal, the latter rarely ever works for me.

Couldn't really decide where to put the binos: I don't really use them, but I've noticed them to be bugged quite a lot of times out of those occasions.

And then there is the Scan Dart: that's just 100% bugged, at this point I would just simply remove it from the game and replace it with something else.

It also happened to me with the Specialist Infiltration not showing enemies on radar and with Lando's scope not applying the night vision overlay on enemy units after January's Hotfix Patch

@DYSPROssium wrote:

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• I tested the scan dart of the assault and it worked perfectly, even after usage in the same life for like 6 times in a very busy environment. It didn't fail once. This test was performed without any star cards affecting the ability.

I've been using the improved scan dart a lot lately, and I initially thought that it was working very well. But then I came to a CW map and nothing, no radar blibs, no marked enemies. I then thought that the bug is actually limited to CW maps, but that wasn't the case. The bug occures on a random basis. I would say 3 out of 10 matches. Sometimes it even looks like my own teammates are getting highlighted. This is on PS4.

Hello everyone! It seems that this bug has some update since the patch notes for tomorrows update (27-02-2019) included:

> Fixed a visual issue where target outlines would occasionally not show correctly when using the Thermal Binoculars as an Officer.

This is promising since it is one of the first times actually naming this bug, but the way that it is written is kind of weird. How could the Thermal Binoculars be equipped on an Officer?

Anyways, if you use any of the abilities described in this thread and see any improvement or notice the bug is still there, please comment to this thread!

Thanks,

I hope so! I played with assault 2 days ago and the scan dart didn't work. Then after dying because of that I got the specialist and then Infiltration didnt show any enemies.

I've tested the Binoculars on Geonosis GA and they did not work consistently (02-03-2019, 15:30 EST).

Sometimes they would highlight enemies, sometimes they won't. Even when they are clearly in my direct sight they don't show up, and it doesn't only affect enemy officers.

Makes me wonder if that sentence in the patch notes actually mends this bug...

Hello there!

So in one of the updates, they announced to have fixed all instances with reveal abilities, including the ones named here. 

I am a bit late, I know, but I still wanted to try them out before calling it a victory.

So I tried the 2 that were the easiest, the night-vision gun attachments and the scout binoculars.

SCOUT BINOCULARS

I've tried a complete Geonosis match to get it not-working, but it always showed all the players. Very nice!

What I also saw is that if you mark someone and you die and be specialist again in the next life, the cooldown of the binoculars isn't reset. Weird.

Seems to be completely fixed this one! :eahigh_file:

NIGHT VISION ATTACHMENTS (only tried CR-2 on Geonosis 28-05-19)

I am sad to inform that this is not working, getting mixed results. There are times that everything is properly revealed, but quite often I see players highlighted and non-highlighted at the same distance in one view.

Image below shows what I mean. Here 1 trooper is clearly high lighted, but there is another enemy right left to him that isn't high lighted. That player walked before the highlighted one just before I captured this, so it is really weird.

This one is harder because someone shot a laser just when I took the picture, but behind the laser you can see an enemy that is not high lighted.

Can you pass this along, @EA_Ataashi ?

The issue was never fully fixed (I still had issues with Infiltration) but after the latest patch it's happening more frequently again, like if the "fix" was reverted or something. Video of both Infiltration and Scan dart glitching and failing to show enemies:

Sure thing @DYSPROssium 🙂

Thanks for looking into this again!

/Ataashi

Well, they never fixed these, and guess what? Now Rey's Insight also suffers from this. You did it DICE, instead of fixing a major BUG that affects a multitude of classes and abilities for almost 20 months (1 year and 8 months), you just allowed it to continue disturbing games, and now even overflow to new and old abilities alike. Both the BX Droid Commando and the Arc Trooper are affected by this BUG with their revealing abilities.

And now even Rey's Insight, one of the only revealing abilities which weren't affected by this is now affected. I'll have a video for this soon as it's a video I'll upload anyway.

You can't do things right, you keep doing mistake after mistake after mistake. You can't take the programming aspect of this game seriously. The pile of BUGs is overwhelming, and after the terrible launch it's what cripples this game the most.

Yes, now this happens with Rey in every HvV match. Instead of fixing this BUG, DICE has made it worse

This MUST get pinned. A Day 1 BUG, affects countless different Weapons/Abilities, messes with overlays (heat vision, night vision, boba's scan), with outlines (scan dart, rey's insight), and with dots showing in the radar (infiltration, motion scan).

This has never been fixed, not even improved despite Patch Notes stating otherwise. It has been applied to new abilities (Infiltrator's revealing abilities) and to old ones that were immune to the BUG previously (Rey's Insight).

Bossk is definetly the one who suffers the most with that because not only his Predatory Instincts is completely unreliable as it may show some enemies but not others, but it also makes the environment so hard to see, that an enemy which isn't shown because of the BUG will blend in with the environment and may kill you from a few feet away, something that would never happen if your heat vision wasn't being used at that time. It's infuriating when a trooper kills you as Bossk right in front of you, but because you relied on a vision ehancing ability you couldn't see him because he was as BLUE as the environment around him.

Seriously, can't we get a true focus on this BUG for September's update? After DICE made this game a tremendous BUGfest with the Chosen One Update, surprisingly the Disabled Block BUG, the most notorious BUG at that time, got fixed in no time. A BUG which had been in the game since launch, and which I've been trying to help solve for more then a year. This shows how they can manage BUGs if they get prioritized.

So please DICE, fix this day 1 game breaking BUG, which affects SOOOOOO many abilities and aspects at once. This is definetly the worst and most problematic BUG in this game since release. It has never lost that spot.

Maybe Santa has stopped by DICE? Or will it be Fake News again?

It's not the first time things were stated fixed or improved, and in the past all of these failed. Let us hope they get it right this time.

Fake news. Binos are beyond broken cant see anything.