The number of players in ranked matches not actually moving and just sitting idol and firing at players is out of control (camping the capital ships especially)The maneuverability of the ship should be significantly decreased when stationary. Much like the old X-wing or TIE Fighter games you should be at a severe disadvantage if you are caught stationary. This game is about flying not camping behind an asteroid picking people off. Fix this ASAP

I agree it's stupid and unthematic.Try using barrage rockets. The only drawback to these things is that they are usually hard to aim.. but if your target isn't moving, well, they won't last long. It's very easy to deal with "campers" like this.

@MrRipYourHeadOff That works only in dogfights, in fleet battles it won't stop them from camping from inside their cap ships shield.Looks like a big design oversight to me, the idea to fly close to a cap ship beneath the shield to destroy turrets / sub systems is not so bad to begin with. But the way it's implemented it heavily supports kamikaze tactics and (hopefully) unintended cheesing when defending.

@MrRipYourHeadOff as opposed to turrets, players have brains and can track your movement from a considerable range. The map isn't wide enough for this. If there are two players coming, one straight ahead and one from as far left as possible, as a TIE Bomber with a gatling gun I have the range and the turn rate (even stationary) to get both of them.

It’s ridiculous, fought a team that was basically all TIE Bombers with guided rotary cannons and beam cannons. They sat in the shadow of the ISD and acted as invulnerable turrets.

@dootdootbeep yeah, it's pretty absurd. Tried that once, sat on the nose of the ISD as a Bomber with unguided gatling gun. I took out 2 Y-Wings and an X-Wing before I had to start moving.

Less maneuverability when stationary - no more squatting

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dootdootbeep
5 years ago
It’s ridiculous, fought a team that was basically all TIE Bombers with guided rotary cannons and beam cannons. They sat in the shadow of the ISD and acted as invulnerable turrets.
Petersaber
5 years ago
@dootdootbeep yeah, it's pretty absurd. Tried that once, sat on the nose of the ISD as a Bomber with unguided gatling gun. I took out 2 Y-Wings and an X-Wing before I had to start moving.
MrRipYourHeadOf
5 years ago
I agree it's stupid and unthematic.

Try using barrage rockets. The only drawback to these things is that they are usually hard to aim.. but if your target isn't moving, well, they won't last long. It's very easy to deal with "campers" like this.
Darth_GrumpyCat
5 years ago
@MrRipYourHeadOff That works only in dogfights, in fleet battles it won't stop them from camping from inside their cap ships shield.
Looks like a big design oversight to me, the idea to fly close to a cap ship beneath the shield to destroy turrets / sub systems is not so bad to begin with. But the way it's implemented it heavily supports kamikaze tactics and (hopefully) unintended cheesing when defending.
MrRipYourHeadOf
5 years ago
@Darth_GrumpyCat wrote:
@MrRipYourHeadOffThat works only in dogfights, in fleet battles it won't stop them from camping from inside their cap ships shield.
Looks like a big design oversight to me, the idea to fly close to a cap ship beneath the shield to destroy turrets / sub systems is not so bad to begin with. But the way it's implemented it heavily supports kamikaze tactics and (hopefully) unintended cheesing when defending.
That's true, they can sit behind the shields. But the shields can be dropped and you can fly around the sides to avoid them.
If they want to sit still and be a turret then just treat them like a turret and avoid them. Go around, get inside the shields and kill them from there. Or just hit an objective they aren't sitting on top of.

This is really only a problem if you're flying straight at the capital ship constantly.
Petersaber
5 years ago
@MrRipYourHeadOff as opposed to turrets, players have brains and can track your movement from a considerable range. The map isn't wide enough for this. If there are two players coming, one straight ahead and one from as far left as possible, as a TIE Bomber with a gatling gun I have the range and the turn rate (even stationary) to get both of them.
Petersaber
5 years ago
@MrRipYourHeadOff and that only really works for the flagship. Frigates have one flank covered by the other frigate...
MrRipYourHeadOf
5 years ago
@Petersaber Well to be honest this tactic just isn't a problem in my games. I see it occasionally, but only by teams that are losing because they aren't as experienced as my team. Even when I see it, we just kill the turret-man or go around him.

Have you tried going faster? Or using the ample amount of cover provided in every map except yavin? Or having your teammates bait you to trade a kill, or the other way around?
Darth_GrumpyCat
5 years ago
Avoiding them is one (usually not too hard) thing. But it comes at the cost of precious time, time in which those turrets can pick of the turret and AI fighters and end the attack phase before you can really do much. And all just because of lazy / not well thought out game design. Even worse if those turtles have a brain as @Petersaber mentioned. Just because you're lucky enough to not be plagues with such behaviour doesn't mean it's an issue.
ghostmonk000
5 years ago
Its a speed problem. I have to say I have a big problem with sitting ducks. speed should be rewarded by surviving longer, but they are rewarding sitting ducks with being able to hide and sit while recharging and firing. Its the biggest problem hands down.
they need to reward speed and moving by increasing max speed so it takes longer to slow down and speed up for normal ships. so you dont have a chance to get away if you are stopped as well as making it possible for other ships to get to you faster when found on targeting monitors. Cause as I play bomber, i would love to hunt and wipeout all the hiding and sitting ducks with my targeting since thats really all the heavy class are good for.
Thirty percent speed increase to max speed across all fighters will dynamically change this game and fix most all play problems, including attracting all the players who play this genre of gaming and are disfranchised by this error or lack of gameplay we all expect from starfighting in starwars.