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9 years ago
But it's not that simple, if you can call all of that simple. There is more than just JE on a team, therefore there is more than one bucket, each filling at a different rate. 10 toons with their own buckets, all filling at different rates.
Let's start simple and just add a 150 speed HK. In the bucket analogy, he fills a 1000 gallon bucket at 150 gallons per minute out of his spigot.
We only see the buckets when a bucket fills, time stops, and a toon gets a turn. The stuff that happens between these pauses, the filling of the buckets, happens very fast. This is a good thing. It allows us to figure out what happened. Run a battle on auto, which takes the pauses out, and try to track the turn order.
We know the rate they fill at for each toon and have decided on the size of the bucket. We know we only see the buckets when they fill, and we can use math to figure out exactly when that is.
So JE at 200 gallons per minute fills his 1000 gallon bucket in 5 minutes. Because 1000/200 = 5.
HK at 150 gallons fills his 1000 gallon bucket in 6.666r minutes. Because 1000/150 = 6.666r
We know JE fills at 5 minutes so he will go first. HK shouldn't fill his bucket for 6.66 minutes.
So time starts and the buckets start filling. Each at a different rate. When we get to the 5 minute mark, time is paused. We can see both buckets. We know JE is full, and HK is at 5 minutes x 150gpm = 750 gallons in his bucket.
Now JE gets a turn, he uses recalibrate, which dumps his bucket out and fills it again by 45%, or 450 gallons. The math above says we are now at the 7.25 minute mark. Hold on, where is HK now? The skill affected him too?
HK gets 45%, or 450 gallons added to his bucket. His bucket was at 750 gallons. It overfills and the extra splashes out.
Now do the math with HK. He is at 1000 turn meter. Math tells us he should have taken 6.66r minutes to fill his bucket. But here we are, paused at the five minute mark, and he is full. He has traveled into the future, according to the math. His bucket filled at a set rate, it cannot change. He can't travel into the future past here, because his bucket overfilled and the extra splashed out. He is now at the 5 minute mark with JE, and us, from our perspective.
He does his basic attack, which dumps his bucket. Let's say he gains no meter.
Now, at the 5 minute mark still, he has an empty bucket, and JE is at 45% full bucket. The math tells us that HK is still here with us, at the 5 minute mark, but JE is 2.25 minutes in the future. They are on different timelines now.
Now time starts again, the spigots open and resume filling at their set rates.
Who fills next? We know JE has 450 gallons already, and HK is empty when time starts. JE is faster, and has less to fill, so should fill and pause time again next.
We know JE fills at 200gpm, and has 450 gallons. He needs to fill 550. 550/200 = 2.75 minutes. But 2.75 minutes from where? When time starts again, JE is already at 450gallons, but he is at the 7.25 minute mark. Let's try that and work out the math.
For JE 7.25 minutes have passed and he fills again. We know it would take him 2.75 minutes to do so from our current point in time. 7.25 + 2.75 = 10 minutes. We are now paused at the 10 minute mark from JEs perspective, which is what we see. Now we can do more math. We know he has filled his bucket twice. So 2000 gallons. We know the rate he fills, 200gpm. 2000/200 = 10. This matches right? We are now at the ten minute mark.
So how do you figure out where HK is now?
Let's start simple and just add a 150 speed HK. In the bucket analogy, he fills a 1000 gallon bucket at 150 gallons per minute out of his spigot.
We only see the buckets when a bucket fills, time stops, and a toon gets a turn. The stuff that happens between these pauses, the filling of the buckets, happens very fast. This is a good thing. It allows us to figure out what happened. Run a battle on auto, which takes the pauses out, and try to track the turn order.
We know the rate they fill at for each toon and have decided on the size of the bucket. We know we only see the buckets when they fill, and we can use math to figure out exactly when that is.
So JE at 200 gallons per minute fills his 1000 gallon bucket in 5 minutes. Because 1000/200 = 5.
HK at 150 gallons fills his 1000 gallon bucket in 6.666r minutes. Because 1000/150 = 6.666r
We know JE fills at 5 minutes so he will go first. HK shouldn't fill his bucket for 6.66 minutes.
So time starts and the buckets start filling. Each at a different rate. When we get to the 5 minute mark, time is paused. We can see both buckets. We know JE is full, and HK is at 5 minutes x 150gpm = 750 gallons in his bucket.
Now JE gets a turn, he uses recalibrate, which dumps his bucket out and fills it again by 45%, or 450 gallons. The math above says we are now at the 7.25 minute mark. Hold on, where is HK now? The skill affected him too?
HK gets 45%, or 450 gallons added to his bucket. His bucket was at 750 gallons. It overfills and the extra splashes out.
Now do the math with HK. He is at 1000 turn meter. Math tells us he should have taken 6.66r minutes to fill his bucket. But here we are, paused at the five minute mark, and he is full. He has traveled into the future, according to the math. His bucket filled at a set rate, it cannot change. He can't travel into the future past here, because his bucket overfilled and the extra splashed out. He is now at the 5 minute mark with JE, and us, from our perspective.
He does his basic attack, which dumps his bucket. Let's say he gains no meter.
Now, at the 5 minute mark still, he has an empty bucket, and JE is at 45% full bucket. The math tells us that HK is still here with us, at the 5 minute mark, but JE is 2.25 minutes in the future. They are on different timelines now.
Now time starts again, the spigots open and resume filling at their set rates.
Who fills next? We know JE has 450 gallons already, and HK is empty when time starts. JE is faster, and has less to fill, so should fill and pause time again next.
We know JE fills at 200gpm, and has 450 gallons. He needs to fill 550. 550/200 = 2.75 minutes. But 2.75 minutes from where? When time starts again, JE is already at 450gallons, but he is at the 7.25 minute mark. Let's try that and work out the math.
For JE 7.25 minutes have passed and he fills again. We know it would take him 2.75 minutes to do so from our current point in time. 7.25 + 2.75 = 10 minutes. We are now paused at the 10 minute mark from JEs perspective, which is what we see. Now we can do more math. We know he has filled his bucket twice. So 2000 gallons. We know the rate he fills, 200gpm. 2000/200 = 10. This matches right? We are now at the ten minute mark.
So how do you figure out where HK is now?
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