An interesting switch in defining a meta.

Other than trying to make a jab at the new GLs being bad, I'm not sure what you are trying to say that wasnt already stated.

The new Gls were stated to be on par with the old ones, so they were never intended to replace them.

Is a rock paper scissors meta good for the game, yes. Although it's more indifferent than anything, it's just different.

Is this a way to dampen power creep..... it's a little early to say, since we have been told they are watching this and at least one of them is of the opinion that changes may need to be made.

Why would anyone spend, is more of a personal question and can only be answered by each player. Again, a little early to start this, see above.

I actually hope they bring back power creep. It would be really lame if the next set of GLs was still on par with the then year old SLK and Rey.

"raybron99;c-2184978" wrote:
I actually hope they bring back power creep. It would be really lame if the next set of GLs was still on par with the then year old SLK and Rey.

This. Power creep rewards those that obtain the newest stuff, whether by paying or by resource management.

"MaruMaru;c-2184994" wrote:
I'm of the opinion new gls need a tweak, but not in the vein that they creep past first 2 gls. The timeline between these 2 batches was quite short. Cg can easily increase it a bit more on the next ones. If the equalizing tweaks are done, there would be enough incentive to get them. It's healthy for the game to provide 4 options where most players can only get 1 or 2 in the short term.

Agreed JML just needs his ult fixed, badly
No one uses his in lead and his ult is useless to ever use in any game mode. It isn't worth the 7500 GP to spend the mats on to upgrade it.

If every new GL is on par power level than the current ones, then just keep SLKR.
Stop playing and come back in 10 years, you will still have the best squad in the game and there will be 10.000 players with 10.000 SLKR squads

"SeeeD;c-2185044" wrote:

"vincentlondon;c-2185033" wrote:
If every new GL is on par power level than the current ones, then just keep SLKR.
Stop playing and come back in 10 years, you will still have the best squad in the game and there will be 10.000 players with 10.000 SLKR squads

This
Only reason to get one of the new GL is you don’t have any GL, and you like Palp or Luke.

That's why I'm getting palps, also not wanting to gear up rose and holdo and I've never bothered to unlock the SF tie pilot because what's the point.

New GL’s need to be a little better then the old. These are both weaker and bring nothing new to the table. I look forward to the years ahead - fighting Rey/Jedi’s and Kylo teams daily in arena with whatever the new weak GL is occasionally sprinkled in.

This isn't a "rock paper scissors" meta and I wish that overly simplistic meme would go away. This seems to be about trying very hard to prevent any further power creep by the current meta whatsoever (congratulations SLKR)--we can only speculate as to what the purpose of this is, but maybe they don't care if basically no one gets SEE because the whole point is to save all the meta-changing power for the next GLs. And when the next GLs come, people will buy them to win regardless of SEE being a bad investment and SEE buyers deserving a refund.

Or maybe, like with Sidious, maxed SEE will be required to get the next GL so it's okay for him (as with Sidious) to be weak since he'd just be a resource dumpster. Who knows. But this is certainly very different from previous releases of major toons, and for many people it makes little sense to chase after these toons and is probably a lot smarter to wait for the real meta shift to arrive rather than chase relevance in an old meta.

If memory serves me right I think CG have hinted for a long time that they wish to move away from Arena being the most important game mode but it’s difficult because of it being the main source of crystal income. I think that this is an excellent way of doing this. Once you get a GL you’re guaranteed to have at least have a chance to get first in Arena. But having several GLs will benefit you in other game modes, be it current or future modes, that could be more important than Arena as a source of crystals or gear or whatever is important at that time.

I'm with MaruMaru.

I'm sure I'll get 3/4 GLs & maybe 4/4. Why? Those factions need improvement over time anyway, so why not collect the GL while we're at it? The only thing stopping me from collecting SEE at all would be if a new GL was released before I got SEE, and he was demoted to "desirable, but have to wait a bit longer". Theoretically that could happen multiple times, but I'm not really worried about it. There's going to come a time when boosting Empire makes sense, and there are several sith who have long been on my "desirable, but have to wait a bit longer" list. There's got to come a day where they hit the top of list, and then I'll pick up SEE as well.

Stop playing and come back in 10 years, you will still have the best squad in the game and there will be 10.000 players with 10.000 SLKR squads

What? No. If everyone on your Arena shard was running SLKR, you just run JML & race up the ladder to take #1 that much easier than another mirror match.

Plus they also have the option of squad power creep without toon power creep. Add a toon with the right kit & synergies to resistance and Rey becomes very difficult to beat by SLKR without releasing any toons that are outright more powerful than SLKR. Suddenly Palp, who has an easier time with Rey, becomes necessary.

Not only would too much of one GL naturally tempt people to grab a GL counter to that squad, but no power creep in toons could still allow power creep in squads, which allows a shift in the power to rebalance and encourages players to use a different toon for most Arena purposes.

GLs were a huge power jump. We can't have ongoing power creep from these new heights, at least not anytime soon. But power creep of non-GL toons can continue, and sometime in the future when it's more reasonable (certainly not before March 2021, preferably not before Jun 2021) they can start thinking about a pair of GLs that provide a small amount of power creep again.

And, of course, on top of all that, there's power creep from 6A mods (and eventually 7A mods) & possibly "Relic Abilities" which CG has mentioned before as a possibility.

Even if there was no "power creep" in the sense of a single new toon that was decisively better than SLKR, you would still come back 10 years later and find yourself hopelessly behind & in desperate need of new toons & new resources for new upgrades.