Arena Payout Calculation Recommendation

"0hH3NRY;c-1490245" wrote:

"Vohbo;c-1490225" wrote:
The problem of course is that this would greatly inflate the amount of crystals players earn. This is not a problem at all for balance purposes, but it is against the ideology of EA.

I disagree. It'll end up with almost the same amount of crystals being awarded. One player gets #1 at 6 PM, another gets #1 at 7 PM. Eventually the same players rotate within the top 10 depending on what time their payout is. Everything outside of the top 50 really doesn't matter because everyone gets about the same amount anyways.

I too struggle to find time to max out my place just prior to payouts. It's really constricting and not really in the players best interest, some people have to work during these times. Having 1 clear set time will never be the answer as life always changes.

I'm all for having a different structure set in place. It's really not fair for the game to choose our payout time either, as everyone has their own availability. At the very least have this changeable once every 30 days or something.

It would end up with higher payout of crystals overall. 3 people in the same current P.O. hour could all get to #1 at some point over 24 hour period so all 3 get 500 crystals per day. Rather than 1 x 500, 1 x 450, and 1 x 400.

50 crystal increase per player per day in the example above with 3 players in the P.O. hour.

I like the idea as it makes it less time specific for those with Work/family commitments, but it would increase overall payout.

The problem of course is that this would greatly inflate the amount of crystals players earn. This is not a problem at all for balance purposes, but it is against the ideology of EA.

This idea would be great in a perfect world but it would cause huge problems, you could have a huge amount of players getting rank 1 which would cause too many crystals to be handed out. As a result you end up with people being able to buy tons of refreshes and gear which would definitely lower the amount of dollars spent.

If this idea were to be implemented it would have to lower the amount that top 10 players get and make it more evenly spread out since finishing top 1 lands you an astonishing 500 crystals and 400 in fleet so almost 1000 daily crystals which is beyond insane. It would turn dolphins to f2p.

I personally have an issue with snipers locking you down before payout to help their shardmate buddy's. I have went from 1st to 5th to 9th within less than 7 minute before in the last 10 minutes before payout which is very frustrating as you can't make up the lost ground in time.

I would prefer the game allowing us to change our time zone every month or so to deal with real life changes like migration, vacations, changing jobs and stuff like that.

"Vohbo;c-1490225" wrote:
The problem of course is that this would greatly inflate the amount of crystals players earn. This is not a problem at all for balance purposes, but it is against the ideology of EA.

I disagree. It'll end up with almost the same amount of crystals being awarded. One player gets #1 at 6 PM, another gets #1 at 7 PM. Eventually the same players rotate within the top 10 depending on what time their payout is. Everything outside of the top 50 really doesn't matter because everyone gets about the same amount anyways.

I too struggle to find time to max out my place just prior to payouts. It's really constricting and not really in the players best interest, some people have to work during these times. Having 1 clear set time will never be the answer as life always changes.

I'm all for having a different structure set in place. It's really not fair for the game to choose our payout time either, as everyone has their own availability. At the very least have this changeable once every 30 days or something.

Yea I think it would increase overall crystal payouts... but only slightly. Ranks 200 - 20,000 really won't be affected a huge amount. Where it would make a difference is inside the top 50. Rather than awarding exactly 24 1st places during a day for each shard, they may end up awarding as many as 50 or so... but that would be the max. So an increase yes, but a drop in the bucket overall.

But like I said, crystal value is relative to the crystal income of your peers... so if all my peers can reliably bring in more, I still need to spend to outpace them. I don't see this affecting spending.

Those players in the top 50 are some of the most dedicated EA has. They spend the most time and the most cash in the game. Making their lives a little easier is a small investment that will pay dividends to EA through retention, satisfaction, and increasing competition.

Moved to correct sub forum.

This would lead to increased payout of top prizes. They probably won't go for that.

This would be fantastic. Unfortunately it will not happen.

Not to paint EA as a greedy corporate entity, but - there are two purposes behind it. First is to get people to sign on to the game more often throughout the day as this is proven to increase "hooking" people (which is why energy and store refreshes happen several times a day, and at lunch, dinner and after dinner). Second is to decrease the number of crystals awarded while increasing the number spent. Most whales will spend until they run out, then buy a crystal pack.

By keeping a specific hour at a time when most people can play (wife aggro notwithstanding), the cause people to spend more crystals on attempts and cooldown refreshes. More crystals spend = more revenue. Likewise, by having specific payouts EA will not have to payout a first place prize during obscure time slots (eg mid-pacific or mid-atlantic timezones). Less crystals awarded - more bought.

This does seem like a good idea. I think you'd have to refine it a little bit to sell it to EA however. But I think they could recalculate the payouts (this would primarily affect top tier payouts only) give out the same crystals they are giving out now and the players would be happier for it.

I certainly would be, my payouts were at 6 PM and recently 7 PM, but 5 - 6:30 for me is almost entirely used up by dinner time and the drive home. I really shouldn't be doing arena during that time, but it's the only way to end up in the top 5.

"ProximaB1_;c-1496451" wrote:
I would love for ea to redo arena in some fashion. I don't see it happening though. People that use the current system to there advantage would get very upset and some would quit. With the current system players are unsatisfied but won't quit because they already excepted that this is the norm. No reason for cg to stir the pot. The goal of capital games is to make money. They do that by making a quality game. They try to make the game as fun as possible without hurting there profitability. This would hurt that.

The most profitable games I know are constantly evolving. They remain the best because they are the ones most people play. Certainly people who game the current system would get upset if that system were changed, but other people would take their place, and I have to expect that a quality product would be a net positive in active players.

Of all the ideas that were posted do adress the payout time problem, this one ist still the best for the players. It provides the maximum Flexibility witch is really needed here. Ist not like the curent System is a bit uncomfortable for many players but its absolute garbage. Messing with family, job and other obligations a lot. It will lead to higher payouts all in all, but I don't think it will be too excessive.