Armorer kit reveal?

"xGriiMErZ;c-2216048" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2216040" wrote:

"xGriiMErZ;c-2216037" wrote:
They won't make the current boba a mando, they'll releaze a new boba that you can farm and spend money on, come on people, this is CGs "this is the way"

They won't, for the same reason. By their logic, no Boba's will be mando no matter if they release 15 or 50 more.

He's a foundling, just like mando is

Sorry, ypu're right, JANGO was the foundling, boba even said he wasn't a mando, my mistake

"Nauros;c-2216052" wrote:

"xGriiMErZ;c-2216050" wrote:

"xGriiMErZ;c-2216048" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2216040" wrote:

"xGriiMErZ;c-2216037" wrote:
They won't make the current boba a mando, they'll releaze a new boba that you can farm and spend money on, come on people, this is CGs "this is the way"

They won't, for the same reason. By their logic, no Boba's will be mando no matter if they release 15 or 50 more.

He's a foundling, just like mando is

Sorry, ypu're right, JANGO was the foundling, boba even said he wasn't a mando, my mistake

He merely implied he wasn't. Just like he implied he was when discussing the armor with Mando. His approach seems to be to say whatever suits him best at the moment. It is possible, however, that the question will be settled once and for all in either Mando s3 or Book of Boba Fett and someone at CG was told the answer beforehand.

I get that, but what I dislike is that it says "Boost mandos and BESKAR wearing allies, correct if I'm wrong, but boba does in fact, wear beskar

Did they say if this was a marquee? Or will you need to gear up all the other mando a for an unlock?

yeah but the he's is a clone and not a mandalorian by birth

"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?

I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.

On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.

Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.

But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.

I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.

I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.

So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216134" wrote:

"Nihion;c-2216129" wrote:

"Shuster123;c-2216127" wrote:
yeah but the he's is a clone and not a mandalorian by birth

Jango was a foundling, he wasn’t Mandalorian by birth. But Boba is his son, clone or not. So if Boba doesn’t count, neither would Mando’s kid if he ever had one.

By this logic, all the clones should get mando tags then.

Were the clones trained in the ways of Mandalore? If so, yes they could be considered Mandalorian.

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216148" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:

"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?

I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.

On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.

Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.

But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.

I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.

I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.

So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.

Oh oh oh, this brings up an old debate I had somewhere on the forums about Jedi.
So, by your logic Kyno, do you think that Luke is a Jedi before his restarts the Order. By the time Luke comes around, the Jedi order is gone, so the way to become a Jedi is gone. Just because Yoda teaches him some stuff, that doesn’t mean he’s a Jedi, just as your son wouldn’t be an engineer.

But anyway, back in topic. I agree with your assessment of Boba...and by the looks of The Book of Boba Fett, he won’t be acting in the mando way anytime soon...but who knows.

IIRC, they said that Mando, Ahsoka and Boba will all converge at one point in the future. So with independent shows, I doubt they will interact much, if not at all until that point.

"Nihion;c-2216144" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:

"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?

I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.

On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.

Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.

But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.

I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.

I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.

So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.

Then why did Jango get the tag? He could be a foundling, but it didn’t look like he was actively following the creed of any Mandalorian group. If it was the same extremist group that Mando is a part of, then Jango would have shown he wasn’t following the creed the minute he removed his mask. I think that if one of them gets the tag, they both should. No offense intended Kyno, but I think that Mandalorians function differently than engineers in the sense that it’s part of your identity, not your profession. If it was part of your profession, it would probably limit Jango and Mando from being bounty hunters.

But you’re right, this probably will spawn lots of debate, as both sides have an argument to make.

Jengo was a foundling who presumably followed learned the creed, and followed that when he was a part of it as part of his belief or "who he was" at least at some point. Boba did not, or maybe I'm wrong on that, but his commitment seemed to be to himself and his life in the underworld he was a part of.

My point about the engineering is that learning the knowledge vs showing commitment to the path are different things.

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216148" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:

"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?

I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.

On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.

Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.

But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.

I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.

I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.

So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.

Oh oh oh, this brings up an old debate I had somewhere on the forums about Jedi.
So, by your logic Kyno, do you think that Luke is a Jedi before his restarts the Order. By the time Luke comes around, the Jedi order is gone, so the way to become a Jedi is gone. Just because Yoda teaches him some stuff, that doesn’t mean he’s a Jedi, just as your son wouldn’t be an engineer.

But anyway, back in topic. I agree with your assessment of Boba...and by the looks of The Book of Boba Fett, he won’t be acting in the mando way anytime soon...but who knows.

He was following his path to become a jedi based on his beliefs, so yes he was a jedi, or on the path to be.

And there is the difference I was talking about, he wasnt learning from Yoda, just to learn skills (like I believe boba was), he was learning and building his knowledge to follow the path of belief, and therefore became a Jedi.

"ShaggyB;c-2216283" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2216196" wrote:


Jango was a foundling who presumably followed learned the creed, and followed that when he was a part of it as part of his belief or "who he was" at least at some point. Boba did not, or maybe I'm wrong on that, but his commitment seemed to be to himself and his life in the underworld he was a part of.

My point about the engineering is that learning the knowledge vs showing commitment to the path are different things.

Bad analogy on a few levels.

Engineering is a skill. Its akin to a mandolorian armor learning how to smelt beskar.

That doesnt make them mandolorian.... it does make them an armorer in feudal system though. But lets not go there.

As to Boba's childhood. Hes taught a bunch of stuff by Jango but it stops when Mace Windu shows what a keeper of peace for the republic looks like....

What Boba would have been or could have been, we will never know. But clearly Jango was one and then became a bounty hunter.... he didnt seem concerned with mandolor or any code. The version of Jango in game is well after he leaves mandolor and is eatablished as a top Bounty Hunter

So why he gets one and Boba doesnt.... thats a bit odd.

Lets go one further. Sabine isnt much of a mandolorian until the end of Rebels but she gets it?

The engineering analogy is about learning the material vs committing to the path of going to school and graduating with a degree. The difference of knowing/learning stuff vs following a path that leads to an outcome.

I am not saying Jango followed anything at the point we see him in the movies, I dont know his full story, except he was raised as a foundling. Boba was not raised as a foundling, that I am aware.

Boba's involvement with the Mandalorians in his life, seemed to be about learning skills, not following anything in particular. So it seems to make sense that he not have that title or tag in the game.

Not really odd, there are reasons, even outside of what I am saying, that seem like a perfectly fine justification for him not having it.

I know nothing about Sabines back story, so IDK.

I still disagree.

Living the life isnt simply enough either.

Did all of mandolore stop being mandolorians when they became peaceful and stopped doing the old ways?

What of foundlings that suddenly just became citizens in the city instead of soldiers?

Its more than just living the life too.