Armorer kit reveal?

"Anax33;c-2216386" wrote:
I know there are many things about django and boba. But just one thing people reading star wars books cant ignore: in 4000 by, at the times of old republic (times of revan malak traya nihilus etc...) mandalore was a threat to the siths and to the jedis. They were a great powerful nation at this age. And the leader of this nation was cassus fett. I can't imagine the authors of the old republic calling him fett without thinking about bobba and his father. They are mandalorian, and from the most prestigious dynasty
But being mandalorian is in your head you are if you accept the code you are one of them. They rejected the code.

Keep in mind that a lot of what once was canon is now legends due to disney buying the star wars universe and deleting all but the movies and cartoons.

"Gifafi;c-2216370" wrote:
wait a minute. If you're an engineer and teach your kid everything you learned and know, how is he not an engineer? That's how jobs worked for thousands of years (and sometimes still do).

(I'm not saying boba is a mandalorian, I don't think he technically and/or really is, I'm just sayin. Besides, Boba was like 8 when jango got got, how much could he have learned anyway?)

Lol he could fly slave 1 (seen in episode 2 and hiw he left geonosis), he knew how to kill a guy (as seen in the jango comic), he understood how to survive on his own and get in contact with other bounty hunters....

Seems like he learned a lot from jango

"ShaggyB;c-2216423" wrote:

"RTS;c-2216419" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2216370" wrote:
wait a minute. If you're an engineer and teach your kid everything you learned and know, how is he not an engineer? That's how jobs worked for thousands of years (and sometimes still do).

Because the real world is different than fiction. Nobody has ever "been" a job that requires a high level degree just because they learned it from their parent(s).

You're not a doctor just because your parent was and taught you what they know - it's not how it works.

Feudal systems worked like that for years. A blacksmith would have an apprentice. Said person would learn said job hands on and then take it over or go open their own shop in a different village.

So you are completely wrong when you use an absolute like "Nobody has ever".... because a bunch of people in history have. That may not be how modern times in first world countries work today... but history covers a lot of time...

True, however, I’m comparing the Jedi order to any other organization that has a similar structure. To become an engineer or doctor, you must go through training and prove your knowledge to a governing body. Once that body has accepted your work, then you become what you set out to become. Same as a Jedi.
Once the Jedi order fell, technically, there can be no more Jedi in the traditional sense, which is why I don’t believe that Luke is a Jedi until after he finds the texts, studies them, and restarts the order....then Ben happened and boom, no more new order, therefore, Luke is ,indeed, the last Jedi.

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216443" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2216423" wrote:

"RTS;c-2216419" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2216370" wrote:
wait a minute. If you're an engineer and teach your kid everything you learned and know, how is he not an engineer? That's how jobs worked for thousands of years (and sometimes still do).

Because the real world is different than fiction. Nobody has ever "been" a job that requires a high level degree just because they learned it from their parent(s).

You're not a doctor just because your parent was and taught you what they know - it's not how it works.

Feudal systems worked like that for years. A blacksmith would have an apprentice. Said person would learn said job hands on and then take it over or go open their own shop in a different village.

So you are completely wrong when you use an absolute like "Nobody has ever".... because a bunch of people in history have. That may not be how modern times in first world countries work today... but history covers a lot of time...

True, however, I’m comparing the Jedi order to any other organization that has a similar structure. To become an engineer or doctor, you must go through training and prove your knowledge to a governing body. Once that body has accepted your work, then you become what you set out to become. Same as a Jedi.
Once the Jedi order fell, technically, there can be no more Jedi in the traditional sense, which is why I don’t believe that Luke is a Jedi until after he finds the texts, studies them, and restarts the order....then Ben happened and boom, no more new order, therefore, Luke is ,indeed, the last Jedi.

If Yoda and OB are alive, and were part of that governing body, then the order is still alive and Yoda can anoint the title to Luke.

"LordDirt;c-2216447" wrote:

"Chucko_marek;c-2216413" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2216358" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216199" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2216193" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216148" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:

"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?

I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.

On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.

Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.

But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.

I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.

I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.

So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.

Oh oh oh, this brings up an old debate I had somewhere on the forums about Jedi.
So, by your logic Kyno, do you think that Luke is a Jedi before his restarts the Order. By the time Luke comes around, the Jedi order is gone, so the way to become a Jedi is gone. Just because Yoda teaches him some stuff, that doesn’t mean he’s a Jedi, just as your son wouldn’t be an engineer.

But anyway, back in topic. I agree with your assessment of Boba...and by the looks of The Book of Boba Fett, he won’t be acting in the mando way anytime soon...but who knows.

Luke's Jedi trial was confronting Darth Vader. He completed his training, as basic as it was.

No no good sir. There were steps to becoming a Jedi...and those steps went away with the fall of the Jedi Order. Did Luke find his Kyber crystal? Nope. Did Luke pass the Jedi initiate Trials? Nope. Did Luke know any of the Jedi code? Nope. As Kyno stated above, just because he teaches his son all the ways of an engineer, that does not make his son an engineer.

I believe that Luke became a Jedi after he gathered the Jedi texts learned from them and restarted the Jedi Order.

“No. Not yet. One thing remains. Vader. You must confront Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi will you be. And confront him you will.”
Yoda

Luke did create a lightsaber in Old Bens hut. That is why it is green in RotJ. Btw, he was the Jedi in the movie ;)

Maybe the Jedi referred to in the title was Anakin. ;)

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"I am Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight and friend to Captain Solo." - Luke in RotJ

"I am a Jedi, like my father before me." - Luke in RotJ

I was just joking...
But for someone to return, they need to be there first. lol. Again, just a joke.

"LordDirt;c-2216447" wrote:

"Chucko_marek;c-2216413" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2216358" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216199" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2216193" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2216148" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:

"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?

I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.

On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.

Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.

But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.

I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.

I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.

So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.

Oh oh oh, this brings up an old debate I had somewhere on the forums about Jedi.
So, by your logic Kyno, do you think that Luke is a Jedi before his restarts the Order. By the time Luke comes around, the Jedi order is gone, so the way to become a Jedi is gone. Just because Yoda teaches him some stuff, that doesn’t mean he’s a Jedi, just as your son wouldn’t be an engineer.

But anyway, back in topic. I agree with your assessment of Boba...and by the looks of The Book of Boba Fett, he won’t be acting in the mando way anytime soon...but who knows.

Luke's Jedi trial was confronting Darth Vader. He completed his training, as basic as it was.

No no good sir. There were steps to becoming a Jedi...and those steps went away with the fall of the Jedi Order. Did Luke find his Kyber crystal? Nope. Did Luke pass the Jedi initiate Trials? Nope. Did Luke know any of the Jedi code? Nope. As Kyno stated above, just because he teaches his son all the ways of an engineer, that does not make his son an engineer.

I believe that Luke became a Jedi after he gathered the Jedi texts learned from them and restarted the Jedi Order.

“No. Not yet. One thing remains. Vader. You must confront Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi will you be. And confront him you will.”
Yoda

Luke did create a lightsaber in Old Bens hut. That is why it is green in RotJ. Btw, he was the Jedi in the movie ;)

Maybe the Jedi referred to in the title was Anakin. ;)

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"I am Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight and friend to Captain Solo." - Luke in RotJ

"I am a Jedi, like my father before me." - Luke in RotJ

What if the title doesn’t refer to Jedi plural? We already know that Luke is on a path to be a Jedi, but there is one character in the movie who returns to his old self, essentially “Returning as a Jedi”...

And that’s Anakin.

But a return nonetheless!

"LordDirt;c-2216483" wrote:
That was a short return. :D

At least he returned, however brief it was.

"Iy4oy4s;c-2215396" wrote:
As I have said before, I dont think there will be a kit, as she will have a table in the hall that deals with the "conquest" game mode thats coming. She will craft the "artifacts" needed for that mode. OR OR OR, she will take gear to reforge it to better gear, Mk4 stun guns to Mk5 stun guns, but I think this is less likely to happen as it would clash with the Jawa....just speculation.

Worst SWGOH prediction of 2021 so far. But certainly the coolest!

"SnakesOnAPlane;c-2217823" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2215396" wrote:
As I have said before, I dont think there will be a kit, as she will have a table in the hall that deals with the "conquest" game mode thats coming. She will craft the "artifacts" needed for that mode. OR OR OR, she will take gear to reforge it to better gear, Mk4 stun guns to Mk5 stun guns, but I think this is less likely to happen as it would clash with the Jawa....just speculation.

Worst SWGOH prediction of 2021 so far. But certainly the coolest!

Swing and a miss, but still has a slight chance of coming true....except the playable part.