"JacenRoe;626482" wrote:
I can't find any reason to use Barris ever. Back in the day she carried me through GW. Now I just load DPS toons with turn meter. The more damage dealers, the better.
Same in arena. You might occasionally see a Lumi due to her insanely powerful heal, ability block, and OK damage. Daka too, but mainly for stun, and Rez. One guy at the top of my shard uses Ewok Elder, but again for Rez, and turn meter boosting. Heal is just an afterthought.
Protection has mostly killed off healers. You may do OK with them on your arena team against **** AI that sprays damage, but your team defending with Barriss is effortlessly getting murdered when they defend. As a class they are dead weight unless they do multiple things. Barriss does only one thing, and is just OK at it.
"Jambiiiiiiiii;626513" wrote:"Darthenstein;626442" wrote:
Barris is fine as is.
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"EscapeArtist51;626522" wrote:"Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626507" wrote:"JacenRoe;626482" wrote:
I can't find any reason to use Barris ever. Back in the day she carried me through GW. Now I just load DPS toons with turn meter. The more damage dealers, the better.
Same in arena. You might occasionally see a Lumi due to her insanely powerful heal, ability block, and OK damage. Daka too, but mainly for stun, and Rez. One guy at the top of my shard uses Ewok Elder, but again for Rez, and turn meter boosting. Heal is just an afterthought.
Protection has mostly killed off healers. You may do OK with them on your arena team against **** AI that sprays damage, but your team defending with Barriss is effortlessly getting murdered when they defend. As a class they are dead weight unless they do multiple things. Barriss does only one thing, and is just OK at it.
Well said. Barris is useless and only a weak support character at best.
This.. She's garbage."ShewardN;626402" wrote:"EscapeArtist51;626375" wrote:
Barriss sucks and needs a buff. Why're you guys tryna hold back toons from being buffed lol? She's not an early character either and that's still a bad excuse for her being poor. She sucks at damage, she sucks at support, what reason should I use her for in arena? Hell I don't need her for gw either she just slows it down. John Salera said he wanted every toon to be able to be used in the game... or well someone told me that's what he said lmao. I want that too. Barris needs a stun, or a status effect, or another support move. She needs something, cause right now she sucks.
https://swgoh.gg/characters/barriss-offee/
She really isn't as awful as you're making her out to be. Yes, she's not a top tier character but she's still great if what you want from her is what she caters to.
-Her basic attack has a chance to heal allies for 6% of her health. If maxed out, that's 1,472 health regen per attack.
-With 24,539 health, 244 armor and 21,148 protection, she's incredibly hard to kill and will stick around.
-Her special will heal through heal immunities, and gives her defence up, making it even harder to remove her (also meaning when AI is using her, them trying to heal through healing immunities won't be a problem)
-Her leader ability is half decent, especially when running a Jedi team. 20% more health and then healing per turn. If Barris is maxed out, that's 1963 health regen per turn.
-Her unique has a chance to dispel negatives off each of her Jedi allies and then gain 9% TM per negative removed. That allows her to dispel negatives and then push out more moves, therefore pushing out more heals and more chances to dispel negatives.
Now, if you ask me, she's pretty awesome if that's the sort of stuff you're looking for. Yes, she doesn't hit hard, but she's not there for that.
Lol, roflcopter.. See that's just the point no one is looking for that. Healing people's hp is almost meaningless now. Why keep Barriss on your team when my Rey can one shot your toons full hp bar. Barriss has NO support moves other than her heals. Why not give her a tenacity up buff like Rex? Why are people so against simple buffs? She's garbage plain and simple, no one farms a tough farm like Barriss just to have her sit there and be on the bench. Oh gee, she's good at gw! That's fun... It'll take you an extra 5 to 10 mins usin her though. She's not on ANYONES team in my top 30. Maybe even top 50.
"Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626590" wrote:
There is no mod out there that can make her work. Even if you gave her a 100% offense boost (which doesn't exist ) she would at best hit for 6k
"dough;626579" wrote:
some of you are tripping on peyote buttons... who uses her in Arena?
sure, Barriss could use a buff but to say she's terrible and useless in GW is just foolhardy -- 24k+ hp and has bailed me out of many a pinch in GW (41k power currently). No one will debate that her offense is anemic... so... slap some ModRoids on her and quit inserting tampons.
"Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626590" wrote:
There is no mod out there that can make her work. Even if you gave her a 100% offense boost (which doesn't exist ) she would at best hit for 6k
"EscapeArtist51;626659" wrote:"ShewardN;626609" wrote:"EscapeArtist51;626522" wrote:"Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626507" wrote:"JacenRoe;626482" wrote:
I can't find any reason to use Barris ever. Back in the day she carried me through GW. Now I just load DPS toons with turn meter. The more damage dealers, the better.
Same in arena. You might occasionally see a Lumi due to her insanely powerful heal, ability block, and OK damage. Daka too, but mainly for stun, and Rez. One guy at the top of my shard uses Ewok Elder, but again for Rez, and turn meter boosting. Heal is just an afterthought.
Protection has mostly killed off healers. You may do OK with them on your arena team against **** AI that sprays damage, but your team defending with Barriss is effortlessly getting murdered when they defend. As a class they are dead weight unless they do multiple things. Barriss does only one thing, and is just OK at it.
Well said. Barris is useless and only a weak support character at best.
This.. She's garbage."ShewardN;626402" wrote:"EscapeArtist51;626375" wrote:
Barriss sucks and needs a buff. Why're you guys tryna hold back toons from being buffed lol? She's not an early character either and that's still a bad excuse for her being poor. She sucks at damage, she sucks at support, what reason should I use her for in arena? Hell I don't need her for gw either she just slows it down. John Salera said he wanted every toon to be able to be used in the game... or well someone told me that's what he said lmao. I want that too. Barris needs a stun, or a status effect, or another support move. She needs something, cause right now she sucks.
https://swgoh.gg/characters/barriss-offee/
She really isn't as awful as you're making her out to be. Yes, she's not a top tier character but she's still great if what you want from her is what she caters to.
-Her basic attack has a chance to heal allies for 6% of her health. If maxed out, that's 1,472 health regen per attack.
-With 24,539 health, 244 armor and 21,148 protection, she's incredibly hard to kill and will stick around.
-Her special will heal through heal immunities, and gives her defence up, making it even harder to remove her (also meaning when AI is using her, them trying to heal through healing immunities won't be a problem)
-Her leader ability is half decent, especially when running a Jedi team. 20% more health and then healing per turn. If Barris is maxed out, that's 1963 health regen per turn.
-Her unique has a chance to dispel negatives off each of her Jedi allies and then gain 9% TM per negative removed. That allows her to dispel negatives and then push out more moves, therefore pushing out more heals and more chances to dispel negatives.
Now, if you ask me, she's pretty awesome if that's the sort of stuff you're looking for. Yes, she doesn't hit hard, but she's not there for that.
Lol, roflcopter.. See that's just the point no one is looking for that. Healing people's hp is almost meaningless now. Why keep Barriss on your team when my Rey can one shot your toons full hp bar. Barriss has NO support moves other than her heals. Why not give her a tenacity up buff like Rex? Why are people so against simple buffs? She's garbage plain and simple, no one farms a tough farm like Barriss just to have her sit there and be on the bench. Oh gee, she's good at gw! That's fun... It'll take you an extra 5 to 10 mins usin her though. She's not on ANYONES team in my top 30. Maybe even top 50.
Bariss is a character focused fully on healing. If you don't need a healer or think healers aren't needed, that's not a problem with Bariss, that's a problem with the game's meta. People should know exactly what Bariss offers before investing in her. It would be silly to invest in her, and then complain she's too weak or that she's sitting away gathering dust. She does what she's meant to perfectly fine - which is pure healing and sticking around for a duration of the fight. As far as healing goes, she's a great healer. Is she good at anything else? Nope, she's dreadful. She's completely awful. But she's not meant to be good in those things. Originally she was and she was OP, and she got nerfed down to become a healer and a good healer she is. Only thing I could possibly imagine is a slightly quicker cooldown on her special.
I don't know how you run your GWs, but plenty of people struggle with them, and Bariss can help them out. Try to realise that she can be helpful to certain people who need healing and a survivable character for situations like GWs. Just because you don't have a need for her, doesn't mean others don't.
She's not in the top Arena teams due to healers not being used. As previously stated, it's not her, it's the meta that makes her redundant in Arenas. If healers ever become incredibly important again, Bariss would be amazing.
Don't get me wrong, I think the character isn't too good at this stage of the game due to the meta, but she still has her strengths and specific uses. I think it would just be best to leave her and let the meta shift around. She'll eventually come into play again when healers become important. The game do need to buff characters that underperform, but they also need to realise when a character isn't the problem. Certain characters are just plain weak and they need buffing, but characters like Bariss who does what she is meant to do perfectly fine, doesn't need buffing."Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626590" wrote:
There is no mod out there that can make her work. Even if you gave her a 100% offense boost (which doesn't exist ) she would at best hit for 6k
This just shows how you really have no idea what Bariss offers. You want to focus on her strengths, which is her health pool. Mod her with health and then look for other stats that increases her survivability. She's not in the game to deal damage, she's in the game to heal and take blows.
??? Barriss is not in top arena teams because she sucks. Not because healers do. I can make an amazing team with luminara and stay at the top of my server. I actually do use Daka in arena from time to time. Luminara has been severely underrated by a lot of people. Fact is, luminara and Daka both offer ALOT more than Barriss. Luminara provides good damage, ability block, Evasion up and can heal just as much. Meanwhile Daka stuns, revives, has a chance to auto revive, and is faster. Barriss is poo. Other healers are useable, Barriss is not. Why do you people argue that she is not poo? She needs a third move, one that supports the team in someway, buffing toons does not make them weaker, why in gods name are you people so opposed to it? Yeah sure, some few crazy individuals farm Barris because of her healing ability, that's not gonna change, she needs another move to help her compete, to say otherwise is just not right.
"ShewardN;626674" wrote:"Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626590" wrote:
There is no mod out there that can make her work. Even if you gave her a 100% offense boost (which doesn't exist ) she would at best hit for 6k"EscapeArtist51;626659" wrote:"ShewardN;626609" wrote:"EscapeArtist51;626522" wrote:"Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626507" wrote:"JacenRoe;626482" wrote:
I can't find any reason to use Barris ever. Back in the day she carried me through GW. Now I just load DPS toons with turn meter. The more damage dealers, the better.
Same in arena. You might occasionally see a Lumi due to her insanely powerful heal, ability block, and OK damage. Daka too, but mainly for stun, and Rez. One guy at the top of my shard uses Ewok Elder, but again for Rez, and turn meter boosting. Heal is just an afterthought.
Protection has mostly killed off healers. You may do OK with them on your arena team against **** AI that sprays damage, but your team defending with Barriss is effortlessly getting murdered when they defend. As a class they are dead weight unless they do multiple things. Barriss does only one thing, and is just OK at it.
Well said. Barris is useless and only a weak support character at best.
This.. She's garbage."ShewardN;626402" wrote:"EscapeArtist51;626375" wrote:
Barriss sucks and needs a buff. Why're you guys tryna hold back toons from being buffed lol? She's not an early character either and that's still a bad excuse for her being poor. She sucks at damage, she sucks at support, what reason should I use her for in arena? Hell I don't need her for gw either she just slows it down. John Salera said he wanted every toon to be able to be used in the game... or well someone told me that's what he said lmao. I want that too. Barris needs a stun, or a status effect, or another support move. She needs something, cause right now she sucks.
https://swgoh.gg/characters/barriss-offee/
She really isn't as awful as you're making her out to be. Yes, she's not a top tier character but she's still great if what you want from her is what she caters to.
-Her basic attack has a chance to heal allies for 6% of her health. If maxed out, that's 1,472 health regen per attack.
-With 24,539 health, 244 armor and 21,148 protection, she's incredibly hard to kill and will stick around.
-Her special will heal through heal immunities, and gives her defence up, making it even harder to remove her (also meaning when AI is using her, them trying to heal through healing immunities won't be a problem)
-Her leader ability is half decent, especially when running a Jedi team. 20% more health and then healing per turn. If Barris is maxed out, that's 1963 health regen per turn.
-Her unique has a chance to dispel negatives off each of her Jedi allies and then gain 9% TM per negative removed. That allows her to dispel negatives and then push out more moves, therefore pushing out more heals and more chances to dispel negatives.
Now, if you ask me, she's pretty awesome if that's the sort of stuff you're looking for. Yes, she doesn't hit hard, but she's not there for that.
Lol, roflcopter.. See that's just the point no one is looking for that. Healing people's hp is almost meaningless now. Why keep Barriss on your team when my Rey can one shot your toons full hp bar. Barriss has NO support moves other than her heals. Why not give her a tenacity up buff like Rex? Why are people so against simple buffs? She's garbage plain and simple, no one farms a tough farm like Barriss just to have her sit there and be on the bench. Oh gee, she's good at gw! That's fun... It'll take you an extra 5 to 10 mins usin her though. She's not on ANYONES team in my top 30. Maybe even top 50.
Bariss is a character focused fully on healing. If you don't need a healer or think healers aren't needed, that's not a problem with Bariss, that's a problem with the game's meta. People should know exactly what Bariss offers before investing in her. It would be silly to invest in her, and then complain she's too weak or that she's sitting away gathering dust. She does what she's meant to perfectly fine - which is pure healing and sticking around for a duration of the fight. As far as healing goes, she's a great healer. Is she good at anything else? Nope, she's dreadful. She's completely awful. But she's not meant to be good in those things. Originally she was and she was OP, and she got nerfed down to become a healer and a good healer she is. Only thing I could possibly imagine is a slightly quicker cooldown on her special.
I don't know how you run your GWs, but plenty of people struggle with them, and Bariss can help them out. Try to realise that she can be helpful to certain people who need healing and a survivable character for situations like GWs. Just because you don't have a need for her, doesn't mean others don't.
She's not in the top Arena teams due to healers not being used. As previously stated, it's not her, it's the meta that makes her redundant in Arenas. If healers ever become incredibly important again, Bariss would be amazing.
Don't get me wrong, I think the character isn't too good at this stage of the game due to the meta, but she still has her strengths and specific uses. I think it would just be best to leave her and let the meta shift around. She'll eventually come into play again when healers become important. The game do need to buff characters that underperform, but they also need to realise when a character isn't the problem. Certain characters are just plain weak and they need buffing, but characters like Bariss who does what she is meant to do perfectly fine, doesn't need buffing."Isaiah_THE_Jedi;626590" wrote:
There is no mod out there that can make her work. Even if you gave her a 100% offense boost (which doesn't exist ) she would at best hit for 6k
This just shows how you really have no idea what Bariss offers. You want to focus on her strengths, which is her health pool. Mod her with health and then look for other stats that increases her survivability. She's not in the game to deal damage, she's in the game to heal and take blows.
??? Barriss is not in top arena teams because she sucks. Not because healers do. I can make an amazing team with luminara and stay at the top of my server. I actually do use Daka in arena from time to time. Luminara has been severely underrated by a lot of people. Fact is, luminara and Daka both offer ALOT more than Barriss. Luminara provides good damage, ability block, Evasion up and can heal just as much. Meanwhile Daka stuns, revives, has a chance to auto revive, and is faster. Barriss is poo. Other healers are useable, Barriss is not. Why do you people argue that she is not poo? She needs a third move, one that supports the team in someway, buffing toons does not make them weaker, why in gods name are you people so opposed to it? Yeah sure, some few crazy individuals farm Barris because of her healing ability, that's not gonna change, she needs another move to help her compete, to say otherwise is just not right.
Daka is used more for her stuns and revives than healing. Lumi is used (not as much these days though) due to her being a solid attacker that can dish out good damage, with the extra ability to also heal. Barris is unlike them as she is only focused on healing. I don't disagree that she's weaker if looking at it from all angles, I just like how different characters focus on different aspects of the game, Barris being one of them and fully focusing on just healing, and she's not bad at that. It just sucks how a character fully focused on healing doesn't necessarily fit too well into the game due to how the game is, but plenty of people still find her useful (as we can see with the above posts). Buffing up her damage or giving her an extra ability takes that away from her. She's great at what she does, which is healing. If the game ever shifted to having the ability to heal being almost necessary for your team, Barris would be great, especially for defending. If something really needs to be done, I would recommend adding to her basic. Not only could it restore health, but it could also give a buff such as tenacity up.
