So, you want to be able to try out your characters vs others without using energy, right? So, how would this work? You face random teams like in gw? Well that wouldn't really help with the theorycrafting/practice I can only assume is the reason for wanting this mode. So, you pick individual chars or teams you want to practice against? Where would they come from? Arena opponents? All chars/teams in the game? Or would you pick the level, star level and gear level of each? I assume sandbox would have to work for lower ranked chars too who don't want/need to practice against GL's, for ex. Then what about mods? You want to go through and pick out mods for each opposing char, that way it more resembles "real" arena/etc? From where would you choose the mods? A mod bank of some kind? Or maybe just cycle through others' chars and pick one that seems close to what you want to fight? Then pick 4 more?Help me understand, please, bc I don't get the appeal or why anyone would want CG to spend time on what seems to me to be a pretty complicated new mode. tyty. (I mean, not to mention the timesuck is still too much in this game IMO, but you can ignore that part for now)

Just let me pick from my guild members saved squad list. I can ask similar powered guild members to my GAC opponents to set a team that matches a comp I'm seeing and have at it.Only place I can fight Nest+Nightsisters or a team with Wat, for example, are GAC or TW- both places I get one shot if I win, or waste good teams/ruin a chance at a loss if I lose.

The most important to test against would be meta teams in your arena shard, so the opponents could simply be sourced from there. Top 50 for example.I don't understand the time suck comment. Unless you're a super involved guild leader, I estimate you can get everything done in this game in 30-45 minutes on a given day.

Maybe you feel the timesuck because every game mode has to be monetized. Which means every game mode has to provide the player an incentive to participate. Which means to keep up, you’re playing every game mode.You have to remember that a vast majority of players can’t really participate in LS geoTB. Many people, myself include, deploy and platoon and that’s it. A large portion of players can’t or don’t participate in DS geoTB due to their guild size and their own current development in the game. That means that GAC is about all of the content those people have had since the Sith Raid.You may not want a sandbox mode, but many people are getting very bored with the game.

A quick and easy idea on how it could look like:New "Sandbox Arena" location at the very left of the cantina home screen.Entering it opens an opponent management screen similar to the friends list where you can add opponents via ally code.Once added they appear under the "Manage" tab and you can give them nicknames to better find opponents with certain strong teams.When clicking on them it opens up the "Fight / Setup" screen where you can either start a char/fleet fight (opens the usual char/fleet selection screen of YOUR OWN char/fleet) or you can go into the "Setup" screen (see 2 screens below).The "Setup" screen is similar to the usual char/fleet selection screen with the only difference that instead of a "fight" button there's a "save" button to save the current char/fleet squad and mod setups (you can change opponents mods by longpressing the chars as usual; the mods saved are the ones that your opponent had available at the time you added him - removing and re-adding him will update the mods if he got some new ones, otherwise you can still change them between the chars).------------------Can't believe I wasted 15mins here as it's clear as hell that they don't WANT to add this to the game.

I'd be happy just setting being able to set a defense from my own roster so I can see how the AI plays the teams I set for TW and GAC defense. It would let me adjust mods and turn order more effectively, and eliminate a lot of the guesswork/math when dealing with percentage versus flat modifiers and order of operations (Shaak Ti gives Rex +35 speed, but Rex also gives himself 4% speed for each 501st ally - which comes first?).Alternatively, some sort of IN-GAME interface where I can set a team and see how all the leaderships and uniques affect their stats would be acceptable. Doesn't even have to be a playable sandbox - just a glorified calculator that understands the internal math better than my guesswork.

Can Someone Explain This "Sandbox" Mode You Seem To Want So Much?

568 Replies

amoliski
6 years ago
Just let me pick from my guild members saved squad list. I can ask similar powered guild members to my GAC opponents to set a team that matches a comp I'm seeing and have at it.

Only place I can fight Nest+Nightsisters or a team with Wat, for example, are GAC or TW- both places I get one shot if I win, or waste good teams/ruin a chance at a loss if I lose.
abc1878439080
6 years ago
The most important to test against would be meta teams in your arena shard, so the opponents could simply be sourced from there. Top 50 for example.

I don't understand the time suck comment. Unless you're a super involved guild leader, I estimate you can get everything done in this game in 30-45 minutes on a given day.
Pengin83
6 years ago
Maybe you feel the timesuck because every game mode has to be monetized. Which means every game mode has to provide the player an incentive to participate. Which means to keep up, you’re playing every game mode.

You have to remember that a vast majority of players can’t really participate in LS geoTB. Many people, myself include, deploy and platoon and that’s it. A large portion of players can’t or don’t participate in DS geoTB due to their guild size and their own current development in the game. That means that GAC is about all of the content those people have had since the Sith Raid.

You may not want a sandbox mode, but many people are getting very bored with the game.
treebunner
New Spectator
6 years ago
A simple post your team on the guild chat, and your guild members can use what they like to attack it.
Think clash of clans has this already.
Legend91x
6 years ago
A quick and easy idea on how it could look like:

New "Sandbox Arena" location at the very left of the cantina home screen.

Entering it opens an opponent management screen similar to the friends list where you can add opponents via ally code.

Once added they appear under the "Manage" tab and you can give them nicknames to better find opponents with certain strong teams.

When clicking on them it opens up the "Fight / Setup" screen where you can either start a char/fleet fight (opens the usual char/fleet selection screen of YOUR OWN char/fleet) or you can go into the "Setup" screen (see 2 screens below).

The "Setup" screen is similar to the usual char/fleet selection screen with the only difference that instead of a "fight" button there's a "save" button to save the current char/fleet squad and mod setups (you can change opponents mods by longpressing the chars as usual; the mods saved are the ones that your opponent had available at the time you added him - removing and re-adding him will update the mods if he got some new ones, otherwise you can still change them between the chars).

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Can't believe I wasted 15mins here as it's clear as hell that they don't WANT to add this to the game.
MasterSki34
6 years ago
I'd be happy just setting being able to set a defense from my own roster so I can see how the AI plays the teams I set for TW and GAC defense.

It would let me adjust mods and turn order more effectively, and eliminate a lot of the guesswork/math when dealing with percentage versus flat modifiers and order of operations (Shaak Ti gives Rex +35 speed, but Rex also gives himself 4% speed for each 501st ally - which comes first?).

Alternatively, some sort of IN-GAME interface where I can set a team and see how all the leaderships and uniques affect their stats would be acceptable. Doesn't even have to be a playable sandbox - just a glorified calculator that understands the internal math better than my guesswork.
Akennox
6 years ago
"Legend91;c-2097045" wrote:
A quick and easy idea on how it could look like:

New "Sandbox Arena" location at the very left of the cantina home screen.

Entering it opens an opponent management screen similar to the friends list where you can add opponents via ally code.

Once added they appear under the "Manage" tab and you can give them nicknames to better find opponents with certain strong teams.

When clicking on them it opens up the "Fight / Setup" screen where you can either start a char/fleet fight (opens the usual char/fleet selection screen of YOUR OWN char/fleet) or you can go into the "Setup" screen (see 2 screens below).

The "Setup" screen is similar to the usual char/fleet selection screen with the only difference that instead of a "fight" button there's a "save" button to save the current char/fleet squad and mod setups (you can change opponents mods by longpressing the chars as usual; the mods saved are the ones that your opponent had available at the time you added him - removing and re-adding him will update the mods if he got some new ones, otherwise you can still change them between the chars).

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Can't believe I wasted 15mins here as it's clear as hell that they don't WANT to add this to the game.

Best description I ever saw. And it doesn't need that mich UI tbh.
therealbaddabin
6 years ago
It’s way simpler that what y’all are making it out to be. Take all the programming code from arena and tweak it to be made up of guild members. You now have guild arena. No refresh cost or time delays. Simple and done.

Each guild member sets whatever team they want in it. They can then change the team comp or comp whenever they want.
VaithDarder
6 years ago
@OP: Way to overthink a simple idea. Its also ironic that someone who has almost 4k posts in here mentions the timesuck of the game, but has yet to comprehend an ongoing demand by the players comunity. Seriously wondering if this thread is supposed to be just an elaborate troll.

Regarding your question. What we are asking for is a very simple idea and wouldnt require too much time to develop. It is also all but natural that the customers of a product make suggestions to improve the product.
NyKynoe
6 years ago
"HTWarrior;c-2097114" wrote:
@OP: Way to overthink a simple idea. Its also ironic that someone who has almost 4k posts in here mentions the timesuck of the game, but has yet to comprehend an ongoing demand by the players comunity. Seriously wondering if this thread is supposed to be just an elaborate troll.

Regarding your question. What we are asking for is a very simple idea and wouldnt require too much time to develop. It is also all but natural that the customers of a product make suggestions to improve the product.

Can you please expand on what you think this would be? It would also be nice to hear how you came to the conclusion on how much development it would take.