Can we fix the SLK vs 5s AI Targetting issue?

That's what happens when you go the lazy way and program the AI "semi smart" and focus on specific chars without taking all possibilities into account. Traya vs JKR is another example where ppl were modding her extremely tanky with crit avoidance arrows etc. to tank the initial JKR onslaught by his mark.

"Rosstheboss89;c-2117910" wrote:
So make an entire character completely void in pvp because the AI is coded wrong? Yea great one @Ggdjqjchsabjdj

It is not coded wrong from what I’ve heard. This was meant to be this way.

"Legend91;c-2117928" wrote:
That's what happens when you go the lazy way and program the AI "semi smart" and focus on specific chars without taking all possibilities into account. Traya vs JKR is another example where ppl were modding her extremely tanky with crit avoidance arrows etc. to tank the initial JKR onslaught by his mark.

So you want them to program it for every possible situation?

Good luck with that. Any chance of getting new content this year is now gone.

I agree with this. I’d rather it stays this way then get everything delayed. All I’m going to say is just put up with it for now, and maybe you’ll get heard in the future.

"TVF;c-2117942" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2117928" wrote:
That's what happens when you go the lazy way and program the AI "semi smart" and focus on specific chars without taking all possibilities into account. Traya vs JKR is another example where ppl were modding her extremely tanky with crit avoidance arrows etc. to tank the initial JKR onslaught by his mark.

So you want them to program it for every possible situation?

Good luck with that. Any chance of getting new content this year is now gone.

I would have never started with this hardcoded stuff and kept it random.

"Legend91;c-2117991" wrote:

"TVF;c-2117942" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2117928" wrote:
That's what happens when you go the lazy way and program the AI "semi smart" and focus on specific chars without taking all possibilities into account. Traya vs JKR is another example where ppl were modding her extremely tanky with crit avoidance arrows etc. to tank the initial JKR onslaught by his mark.

So you want them to program it for every possible situation?

Good luck with that. Any chance of getting new content this year is now gone.

I would have never started with this hardcoded stuff and kept it random.

And the more complicated kits get, will only require more and more dev work and attention.

"Broxxor;d-230411" wrote:
That , imo, CANNOT be what the devs intended when they originally made the AI programming (i.e. taking out 5s first in a GAS lead).

I'm all for legitimate counters to Kylo, but this one literally causes a loop that is designed for failure (i.e. 5s taunts, continually heals via Padme and characters only hammer him with basics). That, if applied to other things in the game, cannot be what the devs intended (it's literally an infinite loop that creates an auto win scenario).

So what would you consider a legitimate counter? Using GS+1 to stop his ultimate wasnt legit. Now using a team of very high end characters and 2 major metas together to beat him isnt legit. Please help me understand what a legitimate counter would be. You mean you want only rey (and only a 50% win rate) and other SLKR to beat him? Rey is EASILY countered with 80%+ win rate with DR and GBA. That's a much cheaper counter in terms of investment than needing padme and GS +clones.

So if all the counters so far aren't "legitimate" counters, what would you suggest as a legitimate counter?

"Daishi;c-2118168" wrote:

So what would you consider a legitimate counter? Using GS+1 to stop his ultimate wasnt legit. Now using a team of very high end characters and 2 major metas together to beat him isnt legit. Please help me understand what a legitimate counter would be. You mean you want only rey (and only a 50% win rate) and other SLKR to beat him? Rey is EASILY countered with 80%+ win rate with DR and GBA. That's a much cheaper counter in terms of investment than needing padme and GS +clones.

So if all the counters so far aren't "legitimate" counters, what would you suggest as a legitimate counter?

Probably one that doesn't only work as a result of a piece of bad AI coding.

"Indominable_J;c-2118197" wrote:

"Daishi;c-2118168" wrote:

So what would you consider a legitimate counter? Using GS+1 to stop his ultimate wasnt legit. Now using a team of very high end characters and 2 major metas together to beat him isnt legit. Please help me understand what a legitimate counter would be. You mean you want only rey (and only a 50% win rate) and other SLKR to beat him? Rey is EASILY countered with 80%+ win rate with DR and GBA. That's a much cheaper counter in terms of investment than needing padme and GS +clones.

So if all the counters so far aren't "legitimate" counters, what would you suggest as a legitimate counter?

Probably one that doesn't only work as a result of a piece of bad AI coding.

Bingo.

You can counter him with equally modded dr, gba, thrawn. Im not opposed to that counter.

Theres a jkr counter as well.

And both GLs have 100% win rates assuming modding is equal vs each other. So thats 4 counters. Im perfectly fine with ftp having a counter, im just not fine with counters that exploit an obvious oversight in the ai coding.

Lol, all I know is in my arena, I'd much rather climb against Rey, shes SSSOOOOOO much easier to counter in 5v5 using a non GL team. Kylos kit is so offense heavy, he AOEs and gets stronger while weakening the enemy, gives his tanks undispellable taunts at start of battle and gets 3 turns back to back with FOO and hux. Hes immune to taunt effects so you cant get around the tanks to target him, and can chain ultimate. That offense heavy kit makes him difficult to counter already and they made them all immune to crit. Without playing against the AI limitations, IDK how to even consider countering him. Even with my maxed ultimate GL Rey, I'm at best 50/50 against Kylo, meanwhile Kylo can auto my rey team.

So change Reys kit to let her auto kylo on offense, make her team immune to critical while in ultimate form and make her damage immunity activate when a unit would have died. That would maybe balance them so they can both reliably beat each other on offense. Because right now, rey is hot garbage compared to Kylo in every measure except LSTB, and that's probably only because Kylo cant be used there, otherwise he'd probably outshine Rey there too.

And anyone who wants to bring up meta report. Everyone claimed Rey was better so many people went for Rey first, or they had resistance closer due to using it for HSTR. Let's see the meta report in 6 months when everyone who got Rey is unlocking Kylo as well, and see what it looks like. Because right now I've got MAJOR buyers remorse about Rey, and using that padme team with rey to counter kylo on my arena climb is the only thing that is fighting off the desire to quit entirely due to my last 4 months of hard farming being totally inferior to the alternative.