Can we get an update on zFinn, C3PO and HSTR?

"GOWLIKEABOSS;c-1761702" wrote:

"Pieriku;c-1761652" wrote:

"Franimus;c-1759303" wrote:

"Drim;c-1758997" wrote:
Can we get a update losing rewards to people that only solo p3.... not fun this is a serious slap in the face for how long this has dragged on

My guild is able to do tier 6 consistently now, in under a week, just because I am able to take down p3 in a day. Otherwise we max our raid tickets and have to spend most of the time doing tier 5. So we all get better rewards, not just me. (I was typically top 5 before anyways, due to NS, so its not like i jumped up out of nowhere.) It's not all sunshine though, I still can't solo it on auto, only about half. So to solo I have to spend an hour or three making sure c3po always has full tm.

So please do not nerf the zfinn+c3po mechanic!

Same in my guild. Tier 6 was quite painful for us and we had to rotate with tier 5 in order not to waste our raid tickets. We are now a few people who can finish this phase 3 in less than a day, which allows us to do only tier 6 raids. Of course, those guys are the same that were in the top spots before C3P0. And all the guild benefits from the better rewards now.
This raid is so painful that it disgusted a lot of people who are almost never participating so, please, keep this ZFinn thing as it is.

I personally stopped playing this game until the zFinn is fixed. I spent 4 months building three P3 teams, only to have all that work made meaningless because one guy in my guild has C3PO and solos the whole thing.

When JTR came out, my guild was just finally getting HAAT down. People put lots of work into Princess Zody , regular Resistance, and all that work went out the window. It's the nature of the game for things to be outdated. If you quit playing because a new team makes your investment worthless, just stay quit. That's just going to keep happening.

"Woodroward;c-1761726" wrote:
When JTR came out, my guild was just finally getting HAAT down. People put lots of work into Princess Zody , regular Resistance, and all that work went out the window. It's the nature of the game for things to be outdated. If you quit playing because a new team makes your investment worthless, just stay quit. That's just going to keep happening.

Again, this is entirely different in terms of scale, and the Sith raid is explicitly not supposed to be something that can be taken down outright in this fashion.

"YaeVizsla;c-1761762" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1761726" wrote:
When JTR came out, my guild was just finally getting HAAT down. People put lots of work into Princess Zody , regular Resistance, and all that work went out the window. It's the nature of the game for things to be outdated. If you quit playing because a new team makes your investment worthless, just stay quit. That's just going to keep happening.

Again, this is entirely different in terms of scale, and the Sith raid is explicitly not supposed to be something that can be taken down outright in this fashion.

Correct. At the time, the JTR squad was a much larger scale difference since it let you solo multiple phases of the raid which was, at that time, end game content while this one only allows you to solo one phase of the raid .

But I don't mind using a superior example to prove my point.

"Woodroward;c-1761793" wrote:

"YaeVizsla;c-1761762" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1761726" wrote:
When JTR came out, my guild was just finally getting HAAT down. People put lots of work into Princess Zody , regular Resistance, and all that work went out the window. It's the nature of the game for things to be outdated. If you quit playing because a new team makes your investment worthless, just stay quit. That's just going to keep happening.

Again, this is entirely different in terms of scale, and the Sith raid is explicitly not supposed to be something that can be taken down outright in this fashion.

Correct. At the time, the JTR squad was a much larger scale difference since it let you solo multiple phases of the raid which was, at that time, end game content while this one only allows you to solo one phase of the raid .

But I don't mind using a superior example to prove my point.

Was Haat ever their baby though? They have fought hard for the sith raid, changing entire factions in the process to keep it going, HSTR Completely altered night-sisters forever and changed so so many things about the game, also of course HSTR coming with G12.5 the highest gear we now have ever had, so yes, its a completely different ball game right now.

They had stated before, when Han was triggering on Traya in a loop, that they are against infinite loops specifically in the sith raid, but do not care about it in the other raids. I mean, they have to fix this to keep their word, right?

Its a lot of effort that people have put in that is being taken away because of one new character that many don't have. I mean sure it should be possible to solo the sith raid by now since it has been a year, but the way I see it, the solo shouldn't include a loop mechanic, it should still be a fight.

"GOWLIKEABOSS;c-1761702" wrote:

"Pieriku;c-1761652" wrote:

"Franimus;c-1759303" wrote:

"Drim;c-1758997" wrote:
Can we get a update losing rewards to people that only solo p3.... not fun this is a serious slap in the face for how long this has dragged on

My guild is able to do tier 6 consistently now, in under a week, just because I am able to take down p3 in a day. Otherwise we max our raid tickets and have to spend most of the time doing tier 5. So we all get better rewards, not just me. (I was typically top 5 before anyways, due to NS, so its not like i jumped up out of nowhere.) It's not all sunshine though, I still can't solo it on auto, only about half. So to solo I have to spend an hour or three making sure c3po always has full tm.

So please do not nerf the zfinn+c3po mechanic!

Same in my guild. Tier 6 was quite painful for us and we had to rotate with tier 5 in order not to waste our raid tickets. We are now a few people who can finish this phase 3 in less than a day, which allows us to do only tier 6 raids. Of course, those guys are the same that were in the top spots before C3P0. And all the guild benefits from the better rewards now.
This raid is so painful that it disgusted a lot of people who are almost never participating so, please, keep this ZFinn thing as it is.

I personally stopped playing this game until the zFinn is fixed. I spent 4 months building three P3 teams, only to have all that work made meaningless because one guy in my guild has C3PO and solos the whole thing.

You notice how all the people fighting to keep this change now are people who apparently want the game to be easy mode so they can be lazy since it's "Too painful to do"? Meanwhile HSTR at least where my guild is concerned is quite fun for us as we all like the hard challenge. Its meant to be hard, its meant to require farming the right characters and blood sweat and tears. 4 months to prep for a phase which is now all wasted time, why would the devs want people to feel like that? Surely it would only be good for the game to get this phase fixed up.

"Gorem;c-1761885" wrote:
You notice how all the people fighting to keep this change now are people who apparently want the game to be easy mode so they can be lazy since it's "Too painful to do"? Meanwhile HSTR at least where my guild is concerned is quite fun for us as we all like the hard challenge. Its meant to be hard, its meant to require farming the right characters and blood sweat and tears. 4 months to prep for a phase which is now all wasted time, why would the devs want people to feel like that? Surely it would only be good for the game to get this phase fixed up.

Of course the people who are struggling to complete HSTR are the ones that don't want the devs to change something that's not even broken, it's working exactly as the devs have intended these toons to work.

And let's be real, many people were commenting about how it's impossible to recruit for your guild unless you are a HSTR guild. Being able to bring in players who aren't complete dead weight in terms of contribution besides raid tickets and/or disbanding a guild is a far cry from simply wanting an easy way out. This raid is so terrible and has destroyed a lot of guilds, it's ridiculous that the people who have Traya are so upset at others getting her easier (but much later) because a toon came out and is working exactly as it's written. Literally nothing is broken now.

I'm sure you were one who got GK but then complained when BB8 came out that HAAT was too easy for everyone.

A lot of people are also upset that the devs couldn't bother looking into the most obvious cheese tactic in the entire game that theory crafters (and practically everyone) figured out in 2 minutes. How does someone who "tests" these things not look into one of the few leads that literally designed around exposes.

With Revan coming back in a few days and a lot of players going to be getting him. Phase 3 will be an afterthought anyways or will that be the next complaint? I worked for months on chex mix just to have Revan come in and do 2-3 times the damage.

"Awesomite;c-1762394" wrote:
With Revan coming back in a few days and a lot of players going to be getting him. Phase 3 will be an afterthought anyways or will that be the next complaint? I worked for months on chex mix just to have Revan come in and do 2-3 times the damage.

Yeah, it's odd to be complaining so much about how players have gotten utility out of the guys that they worked on but it didn't stay as the meta (for that phase) forever

Someone would be laughed off the internet if their complaint was that others around them updated their arena team to the new meta

"Blax4ever;c-1762964" wrote:
This whole thread got derailed

Which is a great thing in general. This thread never should have been made since we need to let them take their time.

This thread is basically a tribute to the dangerous impatience of some players.

Still would like an update. This continues to put pressure on guild leaders to impose stupid rules, etc.