<<ORIGINAL DEV POST>>"CG_SBCrumb;d-183922" wrote:Hi Holotable Heroes!We launched a ton of changes to the Sith Triumvirate recently and we want to know how it went for you! Did your Guild manage to step up to the next tier? Are you completing the raids faster? These changes were overshadowed a bit by some other big announcements (looking at you Chewie...) but we want to check in now that you have had some time to play with the changes. We are still monitoring how Guilds are progressing in this raid but we want to hear directly from you!Here are the patch notes for reference. What GP is your Guild? What tiers did your Guild try? How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)? Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete) Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future? Which change did you like the most? Which change did you like the least? How has your overall experience changed since the update?<<ORIGINAL DEV POST>>

Please put mk8 biotech salvage back in the raids i have enough to craft 2 and hundreds still needed

Rebel force Endor 176M GPHeroic Sith raid 3-4 hours. Reward tiers are much better. I feel like I’m getting much more useful gear than I used to 90% of my guild was able to post way over the required 5% per person in phase 1, the RNG-fest seems like it has ended. And with the launch of Chewbacca, p3 has become a breeze now. No RNG needed with the massive Wookie. Overall these changes have been superb. I’m loving it. And I can agree that the guild doing tier 6 will be able to move to heroic MUCH MUCH faster. THANKS CG!!

The big missing piece in the changes for me:The 150,000 Raid Ticket Cap. Hear me out; the rate of income (30k/day) is fine, but given the current cap of 150, and the Sith raid cost of 110, a far too common occurrence, is to go from, say, 100k tickets to 130k tickets, and then have no choice but to open the raid in the next 24 hours, or waste tickets. This was a non issue with the Rancor and Tank, because, at 60/90k, both raids left guilds with a 2-3 day buffer to spend their tickets after earning enough to open the raid, allowing guilds to push raids out by a day to avoid conflicts or produce more consistent raid scheduling. With the cap at 150 however, more often than not, we have 24 hours to open the raid or else. Increasing the stored ticket cap to 175 or 180 or so will go a long way to make the Sith raid more schedulable, which is something that it’s missing right now. The rest of your questionnaire for reference: What GP is your Guild?~155millionWhat tiers did your Guild try?We’ve been clearing Heroic since June. How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)?We went straight from T5 to Heroic. There was no point in T6. Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete)Eh; slicing salvage is nice, but honestly, I have missed the Mk8 Biotech Implant Salvage something fierce - that’s a big shortage piece for me, and the other Tank drops that are replacing it on the table - such as more mk 4 holo projectors - are very low utility and demand. I have thousands. Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future?We’re ready for whatever challenge comes next. :)Which change did you like the most?The increased consistency of P1/4 DN has made those phases much simpler and less frustrating. It’s sped up our raid clears dramatically, which, for content that’s on farm, is nice. It’s also made it possible for many of our members who had struggled to be on striking distance of the top 3 for the first time, which, as our top performers get Traya maxes out, Is helpful for us to keep clearing the raid while letting those top performers step back to share the wealth. Which change did you like the least?Removal of Mk 8 implant salvage from rewards. How has your overall experience changed since the update?

136m GP ... HSR down within 24h....The reduce of RNG with Nihilus is very good... the Rewards could be a bit more fair to player in the lower Rangs....

I have no complaints as my guild has it on farm and my rewards are pretty good(top 10). I noticed no change in gear. The only thing I was expecting was the addition of he gold mod salvage. Kind of just assumed it would be apart of the “adding mod salvage to the sith raid” part of the additions.

Checkup on the Sith Triumvirate Raid [MEGA]

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slick1972
7 years ago
"Pyrefly;d-183923" wrote:
<<ORIGINAL DEV POST>>

"CG_SBCrumb;d-183922" wrote:

Hi Holotable Heroes!

We launched a ton of changes to the Sith Triumvirate recently and we want to know how it went for you! Did your Guild manage to step up to the next tier? Are you completing the raids faster?

These changes were overshadowed a bit by some other big announcements (looking at you Chewie...) but we want to check in now that you have had some time to play with the changes. We are still monitoring how Guilds are progressing in this raid but we want to hear directly from you!

Here are the patch notes for reference.

What GP is your Guild?
What tiers did your Guild try?
How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)?
Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete)
Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future?
Which change did you like the most?
Which change did you like the least?
How has your overall experience changed since the update?

<<ORIGINAL DEV POST>>

Our guild GP is about 29 Million.
We tried tier 6 briefly, by mistake, and now tier 4.
Tier 6 was abandoned after a day, when we had the tickets to do tier 4 again. Tier 4 took 3 days to finish.
We'll be getting the rewards shortly, but I don't expect much difference. The key improvement for us is in time invested to obtain the rewards.
We do feel as though we will improve faster, although the mountain still seems quite insurmountable between us and heroic.
We most like the decreased health pools.
We least like the Traya saber change, as most of us don't really know what it really did.
Overall, it's been a very positive change. Even the lowest tiers were taking a significant amount of time to finish before. Tier 4 taking only 3 days is very heartening.
DaPowerfulJedi
New Spectator
7 years ago
62 million GP guild

Tiers 4 and 5

About 1 1/2 days for tier 4, about 3 days for tier 5 (and that’s without full participation).

No, the rewards weren’t all that great. A bit better though.

Yeah. We’ll be able to beat tier 6 much sooner than we would’ve without these changes.

I liked the reduced health pools.

I didn’t like how some of the gear we actually need was removed.

It’s a much better experience. Thanks for the changes.
Sneekypete00
7 years ago
"JiggyMoose;c-1661436" wrote:
Top 10 in HSTR almost never get fully crafted pieces. Don’t know if it’s just bad luck, but it’s gotten to the point it’s absurd. The rewards still are trash

Been first for about 3 months now not a single fully built piece... I have enough salvage for around 4 of each but they dont talk about the other "older" g12 which you get 3 salavge of... I'll get a g12+ after about 30 raids at that point. Also need to extend to top 20 its only fair at this point dont need to get into guilds losing players anymore you know its happening.
guitarguy1121
7 years ago
What GP is your Guild? 68,597,800

What tiers did your Guild try? Tier 5 and Tier 6

How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)? 14 hours to do tier 5 and 3 days for tier 6

Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete) So so. I got second place in tier 6 and the rewards were not what i needed to gear up any team i use on the sith raid

Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future? No. Not from these changes i think we are a year out from getting to Tier 7

Which change did you like the most? Boss health reduction. Though its not in tier 7 so its misleading

Which change did you like the least? Not fixing the main problem that sucks the fun out of phase 1. Nihilus protection regen on debuff basic has to go. It makes this whole raid suck

How has your overall experience changed since the update? Unchanged. I still hate playing this. Rewards stink, time investment vs reward is awful. Raid is unfun and this doesnt fix it.

Overall:

Nice try but this does not fix the issue that makes this raid awful.

You need to fix nihilus protection regen so that scores are maximized.

Without that this is truely the worst raid and is doomed to be something we all hate and just power through to get traya shards
xx-VoodooKing-x
7 years ago
What GP is your Guild? 145M GP
What tiers did your Guild try? Heroic
How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)? About 2 hours
Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete) The slicing gear is welcomed. I'd prefer fully crafted G12 pieces though.
Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future? NA
Which change did you like the most? Phase 1 DN reduced RNG
Which change did you like the least? Nightsister Zombie for Phase 4, I have her at G8 and didn't have time go gear her up to G10 for the raid.
How has your overall experience changed since the update? Good overall.
MasterDassJenni
7 years ago

What GP is your Guild?
About 48.6 millions.
What tiers did your Guild try?
Before the update it was tier III, now tier IV and next tier V.
How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)?
Tier IV took less than a day to complete because of that we are going to try V this week.
Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete)
Yes because we move up on tiers.
Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future?
Yes.
Which change did you like the most?
Less HP makes this raid not a chore like it was before.
Which change did you like the least?
I saw no problem for me.
How has your overall experience changed since the update?
It was good. :smiley:
ScorchingBacon
7 years ago
Faction bonuses don't do enough in the raid and some people need challenge gear.

A simple-ish solution would be to add a separate drop table for challenge gear, so it would be an upgrade for people that need doing and don't need challenge gear.

Another idea would be to add a "challenge token" of sorts that allows players to refresh challenge battles. Drops would have to be fairly high (probably between 5 and 10 for t6 or 7) and have a smaller chance to receive fleet challenge versions. It would have to take 2 or 3 tokens to refresh a non-gear challenge and have a small daily usage limit.

As for faction bonuses, I think every character that has a bonus should have increased potency, tenacity or health. Bounty hunters should get increased potency for detonators and gain a small amount of turn meter for each one that doesn't land and they should deal 5% bonus damage for each hit on an enemy with a detonator or burning. Resistance should deal 25-50% of the damage that an expose would do every time an expose is resisted or expires so Finn can do a little more in t7 (I know they have no relation to the triumvirate or sith but it'd be helpful for new players, since they'll want to invest for aat and str). Nightsisters could get a small dodge chance increase and heal themselves each time they dodge buy they're already amazing in p3 and 4. Galactic heroes are fine but rex and ugnaught should gain the buff. Jedi should gain stacking offense until they take a turn for every buff that they gain. And sith should have +25% health and offense in the raid since the sith can never play nice to each other.

I'm only hoping ugnaught becomes a galactic hero after being neglected for so long. Buff ugnaught before grievous
DuneFlint
7 years ago

What GP is your Guild? 115million
What tiers did your Guild try? 5 and 6
How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)? t5 took less then 24 hours, previously it took around 5 days. T6 took us ~3.5 days - previously it took us over a week
Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? (Not factoring in the shorter time to complete) - I received 14 unique pieces of gear from t6 (not including the mod pieces) besides the 24-27 shield generators all of the items had a quantity of less then 5. So it would take me at least 6 raids to get a completed item, assuming I actually was lucky enough to get the same item each raid. To me that is still unacceptable. I had to do 20 fights at just 5minutes a piece that means I spend over an hour and a half in order to receive 1/6th of a gear piece!? Fewer pieces in higher quantities is significantly more useful to the more pieces in minimal quantities. And I was 1st with 2 boxes. I can't imagine how bad the lower tier rewards are.
Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future? Obviously we plan on reaching heroic eventually, I don't know how soon that will be though.
Which change did you like the most? Being able to clear these faster then tickets regens means I don't have a job to do everyday in the sith raid to ensure I get all 5 fights in.
Which change did you like the least? rewards still need work.
How has your overall experience changed since the update? The health and p1 were great improvements, but the rewards still need work.
Nikoms565
7 years ago
What GP is your Guild? 183.9 million
What tiers did your Guild try? Heroic
How long to complete those Tiers (1,2,3... or Heroic)? 2 hours
Did you feel like you received better rewards for completing the Raid? No. Rewards outside the top 10 are still not nearly sufficient when compared to the top 10. Especially when the difference in scores is in the thousands. #10 was 7,672, 640. #11 was 7,636, 212. The reward difference between the two was enormous. Please fix this.
Do you feel your Guild is able to grow to be able to beat the next tier in the future? NA
Which change did you like the most? Fixing DN
Which change did you like the least? Taking out of Mk8 BioTech implant salvage. You guys know the numbers. C'mon man - at g11 and up, that's like pulling Mk3 Carbantis out of rewards. Also, the missed opportunity to flatten the Heroic Raid Rewards structure which is still ridiculously top heavy.
How has your overall experience changed since the update? Amazingly, I enjoy the HSTR less now, because you think you've "fixed" something, when all you did was take out much needed salvage and ignore the broken reward structure. As such, it will likely be months (or years) before it's addressed again.

Seriously, why do you ask our opinions when you ignore our feedback and responses?
Ifhcnpfegt
New Spectator
7 years ago
Thanks for asking, SBCrumb, and I don't mean that sarcastically.
Our guild is 101.6 mil.
Before the update, we were doing Tier 4 & Tier 5 occasionally, but the latter took too long. After the update, we first did a Tier 4 in a few hours, and since then have been doing Tier 5 in a couple days, I guess.
Honestly, I haven't noticed the rewards change, 'cause I pretty much just collect them and move on with my life. They're better, I'm guessing?
I definitely think Tier 6 is in reach, but we'll see. We have a lot of lower level players who probably don't need the frustration, seeing how, you know, the Raid isn't fun, and all.
I like best that the Raid takes less time to complete. We actually have to wait to accumulate the tickets now, instead of seeing that ticket cap burn red in our stupefied faces.
I like least that y'all forgot to add the fun when you were busy crunching the numbers. I know, it's a lot to ask all at once. Next update maybe.
How has my overall experience changed since the update? I'm doing fine, thank you. Oh, you mean the Raid. Really, I don't even notice a difference in Nihilus' behavior, so I guess I was grokking his moves okay before. Otherwise, I mean, I know I'm sticking it to you about the enjoyment of the Raid, but the fact is, it's more enjoyable now because it's over quicker, and we don't have to be doing it every single day because the tickets were piling up.

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