Conquest hard mode

"Fingolfin26;c-2237318" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2237279" wrote:
I think anyone who qualifies and got max rewards from normal should give it a try. Getting the first crate in 2 weeks should be absolutely doable. It's also free/extra so there is not much loss.

I've forgotten the rewards breakdown, is tier 1 crate on hard better than max rewards on normal?

It's the same, which is why it's a good time to gauge your progress.

I don't see why ships shouldn't be involved in some capacity at some point. Everyone's saying they have 6 or 7 or 8 million gp but not also saying that they actually have 4 million in characters and 3 million in ships.

Don't count both when bragging and insist on only using one for everything else.

So, let's be clear, Tier 1 of Hard Mode is only better in 2 places:

1: it gets 200,000 more credits, which **in credits** is the same as 2x the progress rewards that we got between going up a reward crate. But of course, if you only get the 1st reward crate, you're getting many fewer progress rewards, so you're losing more credits than you're gaining. Maybe as many as 500,000, but probably less than that. Still, it's a net loss. I'm not saying that a day's worth of GW credits is a big deal, but just trying to be honest about what the rewards are and aren't.

2. It gets 10 more signal data of the medium-type (not the hardest to get, not the easiest to get).

So though the single crate is better in two ways, net credits would actually be down, and the final benefit isn't that big a deal. There are also other things besides credits in the progress rewards, and you're losing those without any more of the same put in the rewards crate to even partially offset the loss (as with credits).

I think that it's more fair to say that the first tier reward crate amounts to the "same" rewards as earning max rewards on Normal Mode, not "better". It might not even be that good, but without some more specific info about currency accumulation & the jawa merchant & such, "same" is probably the fairest we can say. Certainly not better, and while possibly it will turn out to be slightly worse, we can't say for sure it would be worse either. Toss up is the best we can do.

Again, i'm not trying to deter people from giving it a go, especially if they already got max rewards in Normal Mode. If you're creative and skilled enough to get max rewards with a 3.1M gp roster, then I really like your chances to hit that first crate in Hard Mode.

That said, let's not go around saying the minimum rewards are better. I think it paints a misleading picture of total rewards earned since it omits progress rewards as well as currency rewards that you can use to buy g12 gear. It doesn't say the Crate gives you less g12 gear, but we know you won't earn as much currency along your road if you only reach the first crate, so you'll get less g12 gear from the jawa merchant.

On top of that, and we can't know this yet, but we have to consider it, it might be worse in one important respect: RazorCrest blueprints. Remember that in addition to the box, you get currency which you can spend along the way. They say that they forgot that this time, but next time it will ONLY be available on Normal Mode in Sector 5. They haven't said anything about Hard Mode, but if the opportunity to purchase blueprints only occurs in Sector 5, then people who are only qualifying for the 1st reward box aren't going to get a chance to buy those blueprints.

So, go crazy with optimism when picking your Mode next time, but let it be clear-eyed optimism: The rewards you earn from the first crate are very slightly better, but other rewards will almost certainly be worse, so it should be Crate 2 or Bust for all of us optimists.

"Jack1210;c-2237332" wrote:

"khdelboy;c-2237294" wrote:

"MaglorC;c-2237283" wrote:
i'm not sure if I can handle Hard Mode with my roster. Only got 3.5m GP & got max rewards on normal mode.
Though, the first crate is as good as the max crate in Normal mode
Choices, choices, choices

I think you need 4m GP minimum to be able to join hard mode. Not 100% sure as it may be just a recommendation.

Personally I think the limit based on GP is stupid. I doubt you would be able to use over half, maybe three quarters at a push of your whole GP roster. I for one, wouldn’t be using my G9 Phoenix team for example. I doubt all of 4m of most players would be meta or useful, and you don’t even use ships.

Pretty sure its a 3 mil req and a 4 mil recommendation.

This is incorrect.

4m is the requirement.

"TVF;c-2237364" wrote:

"Jack1210;c-2237332" wrote:

"khdelboy;c-2237294" wrote:

"MaglorC;c-2237283" wrote:
i'm not sure if I can handle Hard Mode with my roster. Only got 3.5m GP & got max rewards on normal mode.
Though, the first crate is as good as the max crate in Normal mode
Choices, choices, choices

I think you need 4m GP minimum to be able to join hard mode. Not 100% sure as it may be just a recommendation.

Personally I think the limit based on GP is stupid. I doubt you would be able to use over half, maybe three quarters at a push of your whole GP roster. I for one, wouldn’t be using my G9 Phoenix team for example. I doubt all of 4m of most players would be meta or useful, and you don’t even use ships.

Pretty sure its a 3 mil req and a 4 mil recommendation.

This is incorrect.

4m is the requirement.

Agreed. Here is the post about it and a snapshot of the key section:

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/241766/the-galactic-conquest-begins-soon#latest

Hard:
Required GP: 4,000,000+
Recommended GP: 5,000,000+
Enemy Tuning by Sector:
Sector 1 - R4
Sector 2 - R5
Sector 3 - R6
Sector 4 - R7
Sector 5 - R8

"Konju;c-2237284" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2237279" wrote:
I think anyone who qualifies and got max rewards from normal should give it a try. Getting the first crate in 2 weeks should be absolutely doable. It's also free/extra so there is not much loss.

I don’t quite share this view that “anyone” should try hard mode (qualify and reaching max reward on normal implied). The data disks were numerous upon reaching sector 4 & 5 and could be a big part of the success for many players in the normal mode. Without these disks some of the players could struggle quite a bit even though they reached max crate in Normal. I don’t want anyone to come back and say, “I tried hard and it is ridiculous and I cannot even earn a crate. Thanks a lot Kyno!” No one knows yet what the tuning will be for the event so it could be a difficult choice for some. That said, I do believe GL owners “should” be fine to try hard.

For those on the fence between Normal & Hard: with 2 weeks to compete in it, maybe wait just a bit (maybe a day) before deciding which mode you want to try. Ask your guildmates, check out some videos from other players etc. I offer this advice because I want the player base to maximize the rewards earned. While this event may be “free,” falling behind on rewards will still be detrimental for you in the long run and your enjoyment of the game will go down from such “failure.”

4m GP and cleared all feats to reach the last crate, I feel very confident saying they will get the first crate, which is equal.

This is one of the few times players have a chance to try this out without as much of a detriment. I stand by my statement.

The first tier will be only slightly harder than the last tier of normal, no reason someone cant make that work, if they did in normal.

Like I said, some of those people who squeaked through to red crate on Normal will be starting Sector 1 hard with no data disks. Will take a big chunk of the edge off, particularly with most of the disk bugs corrected.

I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that you can’t challenge hard mode because you aren’t 4 mil. Why do they care if you fail miserably? I’m 3.5mil with a gl and relic padme, jkr and cls squads. Pretty sure I’d be able to at least get the first crate.

You get a data disc before the first battle. So far the first tier of hard is fairly the same difficulty as last tier of normal.

The question for those on the fence is can you earn 65 keycards on hard mode? That gets you to the first box, which is the same as the top box on normal mode. If yes, then you have much less work to get the same rewards on hard mode. If you have at least one GL, it shouldn't be that hard to get the first box. I just did two battles with SLKR, and it was a cake walk.