I might have missed this in an older update post but I was wondering if we just got a silent nerf to deathmark in regards to the damage condition.Here's a screenshot of what the description used to be:vs the new description which specifies that the damage for triggering deathmark damage has to be normal or special damage and therefor excludes true damage:For the longest time it was a common thing to apply deathmark on an enemy DR just to follow it up with an HK AoE to wipe out nearly the entire enemy SE team so I was wondering why we got the change now? Has it indeed been bugged/not WAI all the time or is this a silent nerf and if so - why?Tinfoil hat theory could be: To make GC harder for a SE team and protect GG against this combo (deathmark followed up by HK AoE) - not that a SE team would have a chance at the higher tiers anyway

Also, from latest content update:UNIT - Fixed an issue where HK-47's Havoc could contribute Ultimate Charge to Supreme Leader Kylo Ren and could trigger DeathmarkIt’s not a nerf, if they call it a bug fix. ?

Why in the world would it be wrong for "True damage" to trigger Deathmark?I can understand not wanting it to be triggered by DoTs, but actual attacks that just deal True damage instead of Physical or Special? There seems to be no reason for Deathmark to go untriggered.

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2166539" wrote:Wasn't a silent nerf they told us about itThey did, but they didn’t. I read it but never made the connection to what the difference was. I never really made the connection that true damage was neither physical nor special damage. I don’t think there’s ever been a reason to consider such a distinction before.

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2166557" wrote:Am I reading this right? So Havok doesn't proc Deathmark damage now? Tried to test in GC, but I haven't been able to line up the turns in Tier 5. I got turns lined up in T4 and recorded on 1x speed. I do not see the damage from Deathmark, but damage numbers are only on screen for like 5 frames and there are tons of them. However, there are none that look high enough to be from Deathmark.I assumed the change was just for clarity. IIRC, Malak's life drain attack never proc'd Deathmark damage. But if HK can't anymore, that kinda sucks :(It’s weird that they let this “problem” persist through the entirety of DR’s reign as top arena team, but now they decide it needs to be fixed. At this point, why not just leave it alone?

"Scuttlebutt;c-2166577" wrote:"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2166557" wrote:Am I reading this right? So Havok doesn't proc Deathmark damage now? Tried to test in GC, but I haven't been able to line up the turns in Tier 5. I got turns lined up in T4 and recorded on 1x speed. I do not see the damage from Deathmark, but damage numbers are only on screen for like 5 frames and there are tons of them. However, there are none that look high enough to be from Deathmark.I assumed the change was just for clarity. IIRC, Malak's life drain attack never proc'd Deathmark damage. But if HK can't anymore, that kinda sucks :(It’s weird that they let this “problem” persist through the entirety of DR’s reign as top arena team, but now they decide it needs to be fixed. At this point, why not just leave it alone?Because it was charging SLKR’s ultimate too much as they pointed it outCalo Nord summed it up - it’s not a bug but a nerf

Deathmark silent nerf? | EA Forums

PawG144
5 years ago
Also, from latest content update:

UNIT - Fixed an issue where HK-47's Havoc could contribute Ultimate Charge to Supreme Leader Kylo Ren and could trigger Deathmark

It’s not a nerf, if they call it a bug fix. ?
MasterSeedy
Seasoned Veteran
5 years ago
Why in the world would it be wrong for "True damage" to trigger Deathmark?

I can understand not wanting it to be triggered by DoTs, but actual attacks that just deal True damage instead of Physical or Special? There seems to be no reason for Deathmark to go untriggered.
BTTripleZero
5 years ago
"BobcatSkywalker;c-2166539" wrote:
Wasn't a silent nerf they told us about it

They did, but they didn’t. I read it but never made the connection to what the difference was. I never really made the connection that true damage was neither physical nor special damage. I don’t think there’s ever been a reason to consider such a distinction before.
Pengin83
5 years ago
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2166557" wrote:
Am I reading this right? So Havok doesn't proc Deathmark damage now? Tried to test in GC, but I haven't been able to line up the turns in Tier 5. I got turns lined up in T4 and recorded on 1x speed. I do not see the damage from Deathmark, but damage numbers are only on screen for like 5 frames and there are tons of them. However, there are none that look high enough to be from Deathmark.

I assumed the change was just for clarity. IIRC, Malak's life drain attack never proc'd Deathmark damage. But if HK can't anymore, that kinda sucks :(

It’s weird that they let this “problem” persist through the entirety of DR’s reign as top arena team, but now they decide it needs to be fixed. At this point, why not just leave it alone?
NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
5 years ago
"Scuttlebutt;c-2166577" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2166557" wrote:
Am I reading this right? So Havok doesn't proc Deathmark damage now? Tried to test in GC, but I haven't been able to line up the turns in Tier 5. I got turns lined up in T4 and recorded on 1x speed. I do not see the damage from Deathmark, but damage numbers are only on screen for like 5 frames and there are tons of them. However, there are none that look high enough to be from Deathmark.

I assumed the change was just for clarity. IIRC, Malak's life drain attack never proc'd Deathmark damage. But if HK can't anymore, that kinda sucks :(

It’s weird that they let this “problem” persist through the entirety of DR’s reign as top arena team, but now they decide it needs to be fixed. At this point, why not just leave it alone?

Because it was charging SLKR’s ultimate too much as they pointed it out

Calo Nord summed it up - it’s not a bug but a nerf
BobcatSkywalker
5 years ago
"Scuttlebutt;c-2166577" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2166557" wrote:
Am I reading this right? So Havok doesn't proc Deathmark damage now? Tried to test in GC, but I haven't been able to line up the turns in Tier 5. I got turns lined up in T4 and recorded on 1x speed. I do not see the damage from Deathmark, but damage numbers are only on screen for like 5 frames and there are tons of them. However, there are none that look high enough to be from Deathmark.

I assumed the change was just for clarity. IIRC, Malak's life drain attack never proc'd Deathmark damage. But if HK can't anymore, that kinda sucks :(

It’s weird that they let this “problem” persist through the entirety of DR’s reign as top arena team, but now they decide it needs to be fixed. At this point, why not just leave it alone?

Swgoh MO is allowing characters to function a certain way when they have their reign of glory then once the new thing is out modify the kits of the previous meta to make it less effective they have done this many many many times since launch. My reviews of their game from 2017 lists exactly this as the reason why I personally stopped spending.
TargetEadu
5 years ago
One of the “bug” fixes in the last update was fixing HK’s AoE interacting with Deathmark (and SLKR’s Ultimate Charge). But it doesn’t mention anything about changing Deathmark’s description.

Did other True Damage sources (Droideka or ARC’s Turret) trigger Deathmark?
NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
5 years ago
Someone made a thread sharing that a SE can beat the last tier fo this challenge

I’m not sure if true damage used to trigger damage — if it did then it’s a nerf
InyakSolomon88
5 years ago
I do not like this.
yado101
5 years ago

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