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10 years ago

Debunking Rumors

Hey there Heroes, There have been a few rumors going around on the forums that are not true. @CG_JohnSalera and I have replied to a few instances of these rumors, but I figured it would be good to ...
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"Lokai;51001" wrote:
I'm going to take them at their word that #1 is NOT an issue. Case in point I got all hot and bothered/pissed the heck off when I was like....how the hell does a character with 115 speed consistently go before my fully leveled gui gon? yeah after I calmed down and did my homework I was like oh yeah.....poe, poes such a douche....that is to say he screws with speed bars and he's in just about every team nowadays.

we see what we want to see and don't bother to actually collect the data and give it a good look.
that being said I don't need to collect the data to know something is SERIOUSLY wrong with my DAKA the Sleeping ugly gal. The entire time I've had her she has only TWICE actually benefited the party with her 10% revival passive, and too date her 35% ACTIVATABLE revive has NEVER worked for me........maybe some day she'll wake up and go on an incredibly long hot streak to make up the mathematical averages of her extremely useless existence to this point. well honestly I like her mostly for you stuns, but those revives should be working too :)


My Daka has proced the passive revive numerous times and the active even more (as one would expect, but she's only level 5 ability) including reviving as many as 3 allies at once (only seen that once but I think it's done double revives 2-3 times).
Makes your day when you see multiple revives when things are going badly in a fight. Sorry you've had lousy luck but she isn't broken, at least not for me. Of course it never procs as often as we'd like but hey, it is what it is.

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Rumors","id":"message:3537217","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":81,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:10454"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3537217"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3537217"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":"Hey there Heroes, There have been a few rumors going around on the forums that are not true. @CG_JohnSalera and I have replied to a few instances of these rumors, but I figured it would be good to ...","body@stringLength":"2617","rawBody":"Hey there Heroes,

There have been a few rumors going around on the forums that are not true. @CG_JohnSalera and I have replied to a few instances of these rumors, but I figured it would be good to have them all in one place so that they are easier to find.


1. Suspected advantage given to the AI -- We reviewed the code and data, sought info and video from the community, and after spending quite a bit of time on this, nothing turned out to be wrong. Meaning: the AI-controlled characters aren't given advantage over player-controlled characters.
2. Suspected mis-awarding of shards from Chromium 4x and 8x packs -- We reviewed the code and data, sought info and video from the community, and spent a huge amount of QA time trying to reproduce this issue. This has also yielded nothing. There *are* visual bugs and those are being addressed in our next major update. Specifically, if you get (for example) more than one drop of the same character from one pack, the progress bar display only counts up only the last drop's worth of shards -- even when showing the first drop's shards. That's complicated, so let me talk through an example. If before you opened a pack you had 20 shards of Cad Bane, and then opened and 8x pack that gave you two drops of 12 Cad Bane shards each, the count up display would show 32 counting up to 44 for the first drop, and then 32 counting up to 44 for the second drop. Looks wrong and isn't clear at all. In the future, this will turn into 20 counting up to 32 for the first drop and 32 counting up to 44 for the second drop. Lots of words there, hope that's clear. :)
3. Suspected lack of fairness in how shards are dropped in Hard mode -- We reviewed the code and also tried to reproduce the problem. Nothing other than a true randomness is at work here. The team is discussing ways to modify the experience so players don't run into as many hot or cold streaks. (Obviously the cold streaks are the perceived issue.)
4. Cheaters and exploiters - We have been aware of people who aren't playing by the rules. We've been spending time plugging some exploits and preparing what will happen by those folks. Stay tuned (and try to be patient here if you can).
5. Suspected merging of Arena Leaderboards - This actually didn't take much time, but I wanted to include it for clarity. There has been an on-going rumor that we are quietly merging certain leaderboards (which people also call shards, servers, or other names). This isn't happening. We haven't done this nor have plans to merge leaderboards.","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-01-12T17:48:54.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:feedback","text":"feedback","time":"2023-02-05T06:25:45.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3537217_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":26338},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Hey there Heroes,

There have been a few rumors going around on the forums that are not true. @CG_JohnSalera and I have replied to a few instances of these rumors, but I figured it would be good to have them all in one place so that they are easier to find.


1. Suspected advantage given to the AI -- We reviewed the code and data, sought info and video from the community, and after spending quite a bit of time on this, nothing turned out to be wrong. Meaning: the AI-controlled characters aren't given advantage over player-controlled characters.
2. Suspected mis-awarding of shards from Chromium 4x and 8x packs -- We reviewed the code and data, sought info and video from the community, and spent a huge amount of QA time trying to reproduce this issue. This has also yielded nothing. There *are* visual bugs and those are being addressed in our next major update. Specifically, if you get (for example) more than one drop of the same character from one pack, the progress bar display only counts up only the last drop's worth of shards -- even when showing the first drop's shards. That's complicated, so let me talk through an example. If before you opened a pack you had 20 shards of Cad Bane, and then opened and 8x pack that gave you two drops of 12 Cad Bane shards each, the count up display would show 32 counting up to 44 for the first drop, and then 32 counting up to 44 for the second drop. Looks wrong and isn't clear at all. In the future, this will turn into 20 counting up to 32 for the first drop and 32 counting up to 44 for the second drop. Lots of words there, hope that's clear. :)
3. Suspected lack of fairness in how shards are dropped in Hard mode -- We reviewed the code and also tried to reproduce the problem. Nothing other than a true randomness is at work here. The team is discussing ways to modify the experience so players don't run into as many hot or cold streaks. (Obviously the cold streaks are the perceived issue.)
4. Cheaters and exploiters - We have been aware of people who aren't playing by the rules. We've been spending time plugging some exploits and preparing what will happen by those folks. Stay tuned (and try to be patient here if you can).
5. Suspected merging of Arena Leaderboards - This actually didn't take much time, but I wanted to include it for clarity. There has been an on-going rumor that we are quietly merging certain leaderboards (which people also call shards, servers, or other names). This isn't happening. We haven't done this nor have plans to merge leaderboards."},"Conversation:conversation:3537217":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3537217","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3537217"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-02-08T15:48:28.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2016-02-08T15:48:28.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":81,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3537217":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3537217","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3537217_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3537217_1","lastEditTime":"2016-01-12T17:48:54.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3537262":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3537262","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3537217"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:17758"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3537262,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Debunking Rumors","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3537262"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3537217"},"body":"
\"Lokai;51001\" wrote:
I'm going to take them at their word that #1 is NOT an issue. Case in point I got all hot and bothered/pissed the heck off when I was like....how the hell does a character with 115 speed consistently go before my fully leveled gui gon? yeah after I calmed down and did my homework I was like oh yeah.....poe, poes such a douche....that is to say he screws with speed bars and he's in just about every team nowadays.

we see what we want to see and don't bother to actually collect the data and give it a good look.
that being said I don't need to collect the data to know something is SERIOUSLY wrong with my DAKA the Sleeping ugly gal. The entire time I've had her she has only TWICE actually benefited the party with her 10% revival passive, and too date her 35% ACTIVATABLE revive has NEVER worked for me........maybe some day she'll wake up and go on an incredibly long hot streak to make up the mathematical averages of her extremely useless existence to this point. well honestly I like her mostly for you stuns, but those revives should be working too :)


My Daka has proced the passive revive numerous times and the active even more (as one would expect, but she's only level 5 ability) including reviving as many as 3 allies at once (only seen that once but I think it's done double revives 2-3 times).
Makes your day when you see multiple revives when things are going badly in a fight. Sorry you've had lousy luck but she isn't broken, at least not for me. Of course it never procs as often as we'd like but hey, it is what it is.","body@stringLength":"1629","rawBody":"
\"Lokai;51001\" wrote:
I'm going to take them at their word that #1 is NOT an issue. Case in point I got all hot and bothered/pissed the heck off when I was like....how the hell does a character with 115 speed consistently go before my fully leveled gui gon? yeah after I calmed down and did my homework I was like oh yeah.....poe, poes such a douche....that is to say he screws with speed bars and he's in just about every team nowadays.

we see what we want to see and don't bother to actually collect the data and give it a good look.
that being said I don't need to collect the data to know something is SERIOUSLY wrong with my DAKA the Sleeping ugly gal. The entire time I've had her she has only TWICE actually benefited the party with her 10% revival passive, and too date her 35% ACTIVATABLE revive has NEVER worked for me........maybe some day she'll wake up and go on an incredibly long hot streak to make up the mathematical averages of her extremely useless existence to this point. well honestly I like her mostly for you stuns, but those revives should be working too :)


My Daka has proced the passive revive numerous times and the active even more (as one would expect, but she's only level 5 ability) including reviving as many as 3 allies at once (only seen that once but I think it's done double revives 2-3 times).
Makes your day when you see multiple revives when things are going badly in a fight. Sorry you've had lousy luck but she isn't broken, at least not for me. Of course it never procs as often as we'd like but hey, it is what it 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