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"Ben_Sunwalker;c-1411038" wrote:
"leef;c-1410966" wrote:
"Ben_Sunwalker;c-1410161" wrote:
Id love a shard shufffle even though I finish top 10 everyday - it would bring a lot of fun and competitiveness in a boring and colluded shard.
Bring. It. On
@Ben_Sunwalker
I admire your optimisme, but that's an assumption. Maybe you're just optimistic about the shuffle idea because you feel like you have it bad on your current leaderboard?
No, I dont feel like that at all.
It’s just that it’s the same people playing against the same teams over and over, for spots that are previously set due to collusion.
Theres not really competition, which I find boring.
The truth of the fact is that I find collusion anti fun, and If a shard shuffle would mean less collusion for a while, great. Thats all.
Apparantly you do feel like that to a certain extent. A shardshuffle is just a temporary sollution to counter collusion with no guarantee it won't be worse on a shuffled leaderboard.
As a player who has been on top of my leaderboard for ages, i agree that it's not very competative. (almost) everyone can beat everyone on offence, you just have to keep your team up-to-date and time your attacks in order to get top3 at pay-out. I'm reasonably sure i can reach #1 on any leaderboard out there, this isn't me bragging, it's just they way arena and arena battles are designed. The "difficulty" in arena is not the quality of your competition, but it's the quantity. I can't oversee all the consequenses a shardshuffle would bring with it, but i think it's reasonable to assume the quantity of competition will increase, thus making in "harder" to get top ranks during pay-out for nearly everyone involved. With "harder" i mean having to do more battles, not more difficult battles. Maybe you like that, but i think the majority of the top50 players wouldn't. I only mention top50 since collusion doesn't affect those outside of the top50.
Also, how would the devs go about a shardshuffle? GW matchmaking has been an issue since day 1, so excuse me for not trusting the devs' capability as far as matchmaking goes. Any metric they can use is skewed in one way or another. Not to mention the logistics involved in merging/shuffling shards, it's a nightmare.
Allongside with the other negative effects a shardshuffle would bring mentioned by others in this thread, i don't think the pros outweight the cons, not by a long shot. I think it won't fix anything, it will just improve the arena sitation for some, but make it worse for more players.
Obviously i'm biased since i'm ranking top3 with relative ease, don't care much for arena so i'm fine with the way it is now and just collect my daily crystals. We don't collude much, we just respect eachothers pay-outs, no pre-determined spots during my pay-out, no agreements to lock eachother out or getting others to snipe enemies during friendly pay-outs. The players i share pay-out with usually just place themselves in the top5 and snipe from there (only one of them is on the chat), mainly because if you snipe from outside of the top5 you risk getting sniped back and end up with #6-10 rewards. GP from players inside the top20 ranging from 1.3m to 3m+ GP, i estimate the average around 2.4m GP. So yea, good chance a shard shuffle would make my situation significantly worse.- I don't know man, my sollution is to give up on arena being fun. At times when metas shift it's fun to play, the rest of the time it's just a crystal dispenser. I'm fine with that.
Since skill plays such a small role in this game, truly competative is pretty much impossible. The AI is intentionally bad, it's so bad that it overshadows team choice. strenght and even mod (dis)advantage to a certain extent.
Sure, the battles are semi complex and you can definately form a team that does(n't) perform well, make wrong/right choices wich ability you use or who you target first etc. But it's all pretty basic stuff.
I'm fine with highest rank achieved though, it's certainly more user friendly. Not sure if it would stop collusion, or make it worse. It would make it easier to not get targetted since others can't monitor the top10 all day long. - Initially reading this post I thought like others that changing up the arena shards will be a bad idea and would really just make things easier for people who have taken time away from the game(Catering to them), But after reading more responses here I have a new idea that I think would be alot more fun.
If every day or every week our arenas switched up completely, not just moving a few people around but actually doing a whole arena mixup so people fight different people every day or every week however it should be segmented. That way there is very little chance of collusion and we would have a much more diverse time in arena.
I see a few issues right off the bat that could use some ironing out like where do people start out in the leaderboard when it resets, and should these arenas still have 20k people or should it be much less? 5 fights a day may not be enough and fight timers could become even more bothersome. So with these questions in mind a week minimum might make more sense.
This should probably be done only to arenas that have been around for more than a year cause it would most likely only hurt newer shards/leaderboards. Yet in general this would make arenas more fun to me and allow people to fight new opponents instead of having literally the same fights over and over every day against the same people who we already know everything about their team including their mods without even looking.
Im weary to suggest something like this cause a good idea can very easily turn into a bad idea and this could end up feeling like tournaments but I guess I'm being optimistic today. - Am I (normal user) able to close a thread?
Tired of seeing hateful/negative/assumptive messages on my thread. - Closing thread per OP request
- Why would it take that much money? All you need to do is unlock CLS to get back in the top 20 then casually farm whatever else you may want.
- The developers have already said it would not be feasable/plausable/doable/etc whatever to shuffle arena
- the answer is no.
"Syrup_Chugger3;c-1408888" wrote:
The developers have already said it would not be feasable/plausable/doable/etc whatever to shuffle arena
Source? I only know of one mention by a dev, over a year ago, (it is still in dev announcements) that says " no plans at this time". Haven't seen an official comment by a dev since ."FierceRevan;c-1408916" wrote:
"Syrup_Chugger3;c-1408888" wrote:
The developers have already said it would not be feasable/plausable/doable/etc whatever to shuffle arena
Source? I only know of one mention by a dev, over a year ago, (it is still in dev announcements) that says " no plans at this time". Haven't seen an official comment by a dev since .
This is not what “shard shuffle” means..
Shard shuffle is when they move character shards around and change where you can farm certain character shards.
I would be pretty ticked off because I have made a special bond with my shard mates over the past 2 years.
And I do not think they should shuffle your shard just to put you into an easier shard because you took a break. That’s your fault.. you should be matched up with people who starting at the same time as you.. LOL you trying to only fight newbs??
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