Did Lord Vader get nerfed again?

R8 GK. Regardless, LV is having more and more counters discovered and really needs a major buff to compete at the top level.

"Ryanh1315;c-2342466" wrote:
R8 GK. Regardless, LV is having more and more counters discovered and really needs a major buff to compete at the top level.

Pfft Lord Vader is fine, he only gets countered by imperial troopers (marquees), fennec BH (marauees), Sith Trio /w DV & Talon (1 raid + marauees) & others of much lesser investment.

I mean it’s not like he’s the most expensive galactic legend in the game who CG stated was a tier above the first 4 Galactic Legends when paired with his conquest unit…. oh wait.

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342935" wrote:
Lord vader so bad,
SEE getting rekt by GG,
SLKR getting owned by JKR and JKL,
JML getting owned by EP and mara jade.
JMK getting demolished by Padme.
Bugs and a murder bear owning Rey.
Are you sure LV is that bad?

Yes.

SEE / SLKR / JML & Rey are all a tier below LV Maul & JMK Cat (CGs wording).

JMK getting “demolished by Padmé” requires characters that rip apart JMKs team, (Ahsoka, CAT, GK) & nerfs CLS’ team, (3PO), meaning it’s essentially pointless to do for most because of how high the investment is for the counter.

While LV, who again, is a tier above the first 4 GLs & the most expensive to unlock, gets countered by a marquee BH squad, marquee imp trooper squad, sith trio /w talon & DV (1 raid + 4 marquees).

So yeah I’m pre sure there’s something wrong with LV ngl

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342941" wrote:
Since when are we taking the word of CG as fact? Lol

Lmao fair

"Gifafi;c-2343036" wrote:
why are people so upset that teams can beat LV if you put him on defense? Has anyone tried him vs sith trio or imp troopers while on offense?

No, because using a GL against two good, but not exactly meta teams is wasteful. Plus you never see them on defence anyway.
Would anyone invest in a GL to beat those squads?

"Gifafi;c-2343050" wrote:

"AlexanderG;c-2343037" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2343036" wrote:
why are people so upset that teams can beat LV if you put him on defense? Has anyone tried him vs sith trio or imp troopers while on offense?

No, because using a GL against two good, but not exactly meta teams is wasteful. Plus you never see them on defence anyway.
Would anyone invest in a GL to beat those squads?

oh, you never see those teams on defense? Because they are far better on offense and not great on defense, right?

I understood your original point and agree with it to a certain extent. What I find hard to understand however is why the hardest to acquire character in the game is beaten so easily on defence that it's only really an offence character. And why you seem to think that's OK.

I think people were more accepting (eventually) of SEE being really just an attacking GL as he's relatively cheap. LV isn't - and isn't good enough, IMO.

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2343145" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2343121" wrote:

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342941" wrote:
Since when are we taking the word of CG as fact? Lol

Since when are we taking YT videos that don’t show the mods of the opposing team as fact?

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342935" wrote:
Lord vader so bad,
SEE getting rekt by GG,
SLKR getting owned by JKR and JKL,
JML getting owned by EP and mara jade.
JMK getting demolished by Padme.
Bugs and a murder bear owning Rey.
Are you sure LV is that bad?

Oh. Since now.

https://swgoh.gg/gac/counters/GLREY/?season=24&cutoff=0&a_lead=GENERALSKYWALKER&sort=win_percentage
Numbers dont lie, you got a problem with youtubers? dont watch them lol

For the 1st, the win percentage is a as low as 54%. Not something I'd count on to win GAC.

In the second, there are like 15 instances of each battle. Very fringe cases, and as darjelos eluded to, we can't see mods or any other factors. It's very far from proving these are legitimate counters.

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2343173" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2343151" wrote:

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2343145" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2343121" wrote:

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342941" wrote:
Since when are we taking the word of CG as fact? Lol

Since when are we taking YT videos that don’t show the mods of the opposing team as fact?

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342935" wrote:
Lord vader so bad,
SEE getting rekt by GG,
SLKR getting owned by JKR and JKL,
JML getting owned by EP and mara jade.
JMK getting demolished by Padme.
Bugs and a murder bear owning Rey.
Are you sure LV is that bad?

Oh. Since now.

https://swgoh.gg/gac/counters/GLREY/?season=24&cutoff=0&a_lead=GENERALSKYWALKER&sort=win_percentage
Numbers dont lie, you got a problem with youtubers? dont watch them lol

For the 1st, the win percentage is a as low as 54%. Not something I'd count on to win GAC.

In the second, there are like 15 instances of each battle. Very fringe cases, and as darjelos eluded to, we can't see mods or any other factors. It's very far from proving these are legitimate counters.

The info is there, the numbers are there, do with it as it pleases you

I'll do nothing, as they show nothing.

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2343173" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2343151" wrote:

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2343145" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2343121" wrote:

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342941" wrote:
Since when are we taking the word of CG as fact? Lol

Since when are we taking YT videos that don’t show the mods of the opposing team as fact?

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2342935" wrote:
Lord vader so bad,
SEE getting rekt by GG,
SLKR getting owned by JKR and JKL,
JML getting owned by EP and mara jade.
JMK getting demolished by Padme.
Bugs and a murder bear owning Rey.
Are you sure LV is that bad?

Oh. Since now.

https://swgoh.gg/gac/counters/GLREY/?season=24&cutoff=0&a_lead=GENERALSKYWALKER&sort=win_percentage
Numbers dont lie, you got a problem with youtubers? dont watch them lol

For the 1st, the win percentage is a as low as 54%. Not something I'd count on to win GAC.

In the second, there are like 15 instances of each battle. Very fringe cases, and as darjelos eluded to, we can't see mods or any other factors. It's very far from proving these are legitimate counters.

The info is there, the numbers are there, do with it as it pleases you

He did, he demonstrated the lack of consistency in the posted counter by #1- pointing out the low % of the first and #2 - pointing out the number of battles so small the it obviously can’t provide a solid counter that can be replicated and this could be due to mods etc.
So again, LV sucks and I have one of the beefiest in the game.

Situation normal for me. What was your team composition? And your opponent?