DN Annihilate in GW

"Obs0lete;928192" wrote:

"3Cheers4Tyranny;928138" wrote:

"DarthPyro13;928118" wrote:
LS/DS, cantina and the Jedi event are all one encounter with many stages in it. GW is 12 encounters with one stage each. His annihilate ability starts on cooldown for every encounter. It's working as intended.

Then explain how shore taunts all stages ;)

That's a good example, as is Raid Han (shoot first) and zeta QGJ (leader), both of which work on each stage of a level. So I think it's just DN who has his cooldown reset every time. Kozi's post conclusively states it's WAI.

I guess it's just exclusively for Nihlus (sadly)

Pretty dumb if WAI. Yes, it says it starts on cool down, but no other ability starts on cool down at the start of an encounter, yet they carry over between nodes. GW is cake with him either way, but it surely is inconsistent. Those arguing otherwise are failing at logic.

Logic has nothing to do with it. The dev said it was designed to work that way, so the discussion is over.

"Obs0lete;928197" wrote:
Logic has nothing to do with it. The dev said it was designed to work that way, so the discussion is over.

This.

@DarthApocalypse
its not a bug. I may agree that it's unfair or crappy but the developers made their decision before he was even available to the players.
We should all make informed decisions before using resources in his game.

"Red_Madness;928220" wrote:

"Obs0lete;928197" wrote:
Logic has nothing to do with it. The dev said it was designed to work that way, so the discussion is over.

This.

You must be new to the internets. Buy a sturdy desk and a helmet, you'll need it.

"TheFoxReDux;928227" wrote:

"Red_Madness;928220" wrote:

"Obs0lete;928197" wrote:
Logic has nothing to do with it. The dev said it was designed to work that way, so the discussion is over.

This.

You must be new to the internets. Buy a sturdy desk and a helmet, you'll need it.

Sure thing kid.

"Obs0lete;928197" wrote:
Logic has nothing to do with it. The dev said it was designed to work that way, so the discussion is over.

I get that and I'm fine with that since it's their choice to have it that way. That doesn't mean it's out of sorts with the game mechanics. Remember Sesame Street's "One of these things is not like the other" bit? It's that. So be it.

"DarthPyro13;928118" wrote:
LS/DS, cantina and the Jedi event are all one encounter with many stages in it. GW is 12 encounters with one stage each. His annihilate ability starts on cooldown for every encounter. It's working as intended.

Then why don't all other toons start with their cooldowns at 0. It can't be WAI for other cooldowns to carry over, but Nihilus gets reset...

"Acrofales;928280" wrote:

"DarthPyro13;928118" wrote:
LS/DS, cantina and the Jedi event are all one encounter with many stages in it. GW is 12 encounters with one stage each. His annihilate ability starts on cooldown for every encounter. It's working as intended.

Then why don't all other toons start with their cooldowns at 0. It can't be WAI for other cooldowns to carry over, but Nihilus gets reset...

Except that their abilities don't state "...starts on cooldown." It is functioning exactly like other "start of battle/encounter" abilities:

Han Solo's "Shoot First"

Han has +35% Counter Chance and +10% Critical Chance. Han takes a bonus turn at the start of each encounter. During this turn, he can only use his Basic ability, but it will Stun the target for 1 turn.

Shoretrooper's "Stand Guard"

At the start of each encounter Shoretrooper gains Taunt for 1 turn. Whenever another allied Empire unit uses a Special ability, if Shoretrooper is Taunting, they gain 15% Turn Meter and Shoretrooper recovers 10% Max Health.

Baze Malbus' "For Jedha"

Baze Malbus gains Taunt and Retribution for 1 turn at the start of each encounter, whenever an enemy is defeated, and whenever Chirrut Îmwe falls below 100% Health. Baze Malbus gains 5% Turn Meter whenever an enemy gains a buff.

Those three specifically state "encounter", though, so they don't necessarily apply. However, they do when in the context of Boba Fett's ability (which is the best example of why Annihilate must reset for each node):

Boba Fett's "Bounty Hunter's Resolve"

At the start of battle, and whenever he defeats an enemy, Boba Fett recovers 100% Protection and gains Bounty Hunter's Resolve until he is defeated. Bounty Hunter's Resolve: Boba Fett ignores Taunts during his turn. When defeated, revive at 100% Health. This buff cannot be dispelled.

Every time an ability reads "at the start of ", it resets for every Galactic War node. Han gets 12 bonus shots. Shoretrooper and Baze taunt at the start of every node. Boba Fett gets 11 free "recharges" of Bounty Hunter's Resolve even if he didn't end the last node with it - he starts every node with it when buffs don't normally carry over, meaning he breaks the mold because of his ability reading "at the start of battle."

Darth Nihilus' "Annihilate"

Instantly defeat target enemy. Nihilus gains Max Health equal to the target's Max Health. The defeated target can't be Revived. This ability can't be Evaded and starts on cooldown.

Saying "starts" here is just a more grammatically correct way of saying "at the start of battle this ability is on cooldown." So it is perfectly in line with the other abilities that have the same mechanic.

*Edit* Just realized that Boba doesn't regain his protection at the start of battle, meaning the wording on the description isn't as clear/accurate as it could be. However, my point is focused on the application of Bounty Hunter's Resolve.