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ccmoose
2 years agoRising Novice
It feels like you guys are getting your lines crossed in this discussion. Some are talking about what the omi used to do, some about what it will do now, and some about the efficacy of what it used to do.
Everyone here knows it used to enable a counter for LV.
Anyone who said it was guaranteed is either being disingenuous or assuming you also have the proper mods and relic levels. This should be apparent from the .gg data, which shows several fails by people assuming it was just an "I win" button with no further investment required. This is also why I was against the nerf. Even with the omi, you needed dedicted, quality mods and proper strategy to make it work (at least in 3v3).
Few have offered concrete examples of what its nerfed state will still counter.
Back to Jakdnels question, I've yet to see someone offer a counter enabled by the nerfed omi that looks consistent and valuable enough to be worthy of an omi. I hope to be proven wrong this season, in which case I will reapply the omi.
Everyone here knows it used to enable a counter for LV.
Anyone who said it was guaranteed is either being disingenuous or assuming you also have the proper mods and relic levels. This should be apparent from the .gg data, which shows several fails by people assuming it was just an "I win" button with no further investment required. This is also why I was against the nerf. Even with the omi, you needed dedicted, quality mods and proper strategy to make it work (at least in 3v3).
Few have offered concrete examples of what its nerfed state will still counter.
- Malgus--data was pretty rough. Pretty easy to get Fear locked and cooldown increased for days, especially against quality Malgus comps
- GAS--if you can trigger the cooldown reset on Nihilus and then get a turn before GAS increases them again... sure. I am interested to see how this plays out, but it sounds like you won't have much agency in the matter unless the clones are coded to focus Nihilus and you run Nihilus lead and Nihilus gets a turn before GAS...
- JML. I found some YouTube vids of it in 5v5. Looks dicey but possible. I do wonder how much the extra stat scaling mattered because the videos I saw looked dicey.
Back to Jakdnels question, I've yet to see someone offer a counter enabled by the nerfed omi that looks consistent and valuable enough to be worthy of an omi. I hope to be proven wrong this season, in which case I will reapply the omi.
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