"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2399147" wrote:
But yeah, I think the only thing I wish CG had done differently here is sent an in-game message that there were major changes coming and to check the forums for details. But I also still think anyone who wants to take this game seriously needs to at least follow dev announcements on the forums, for realz
"ShaggyB;c-2399162" wrote:"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2399147" wrote:
But yeah, I think the only thing I wish CG had done differently here is sent an in-game message that there were major changes coming and to check the forums for details. But I also still think anyone who wants to take this game seriously needs to at least follow dev announcements on the forums, for realz
This times 100.
This is the mistake CG made.
They know the forums doesnt represent the entire playerbase.... yet no in game announcement warning you that your gear would lose half its trade in value at the scavenger before hand....
Thats a big miss and CG should be taking to task on that.
Doubling the gear in your inventory isnt gonna happen and we all know its not a reasonable fix.
Making economy changes without an in game heads up should never happen. Even if its just a brief "go to the forums for more detail on scavanger trade in value changes going live in the next update"... it has to be given in game or not done till it is announced in game with some prep time.
"DarthCha0s13;c-2399278" wrote:
CG had a statement that that the doubling/halving was net neutral for relic levels. If you look at heat sinks, daily challenges gives roughly 60 each of carbs, cuffs, guns, gold8, and callers. Throw in 70 pieces of those gear pieces, and that is 370 gear pieces that was previously worth 74 heat sinks but is now worth only 37. That is almost 2 relic levels worth of heatsinks per week that were lost from passive farming, more when you consider that GCs also were not doubled. Now while I was not and am not salvaging carbs, I have exchanged the other pieces for heat sinks. In any case, the change was neither neutral nor minimal in regards to heatsinks..
"DarjeloSalas;c-2399292" wrote:
Yes, the way the devs used “net-neutral” is being misquoted by many:Helps ensure these changes accelerate gear, but remain net-neutral to the Relic system
So the intention was that doubling the gear drops would be net neutral - not that the entire relic system would be unaffected.
"DarjeloSalas;c-2399375" wrote:
You’re forgetting one additional group:
Those who have a small roster with only a handful of relic characters that still think the scavenger value of their gear being halved makes it “worthless”. Even though they still have well over a hundred characters they could apply the gear to in exactly the same way as before.
Before the tired old “CG apologist” trope gets wheeled out, I completely agree that an in-game message in our inboxes, even if all it did was point players to the forums for the details, should have been issued. Yes, serious players should take steps to keep informed, but to suggest this absolves the devs of any responsibility to give the player base a pointer to an upcoming major change doesn’t sit right with me.
Some of the loudest complainers about this issue spend half their time on the forums complaining about how few relic characters they have. Yet they also seem to think that their g12 gear - which would help them take more characters up to relics - has had its value halved. The g12 gear has more than one purpose. And its value for one of those purposes was not affected whatsoever.
"RTS;c-2399395" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2399160" wrote:"RTS;c-2399114" wrote:"Tellithowitis;c-2398862" wrote:"Sceptog;c-2398807" wrote:
The drop was ~~doubled, so should be net neutral (more or less)
And what about the hundreds of thousands of pieces we all had saved up over YEARS that instantly lost half it's value? Even with the double drops it will be years to get enough to match what we already had. And don't say that "you should have already converted" because hundreds of thousands of players have no access to forums or could have intuitively known this was about to happen
Should have scrapped it ahead of time I guess?
Like the rest of us?
Did you or did you decide to keep your gear and start working on lower gear characters in your roster?
I scrapped most of it, because now I will be able to acquire it much faster for the gearing WHEN I decide to work on those specific toons.
"Tialishoma241;c-2401638" wrote:"nomad1988;c-2399052" wrote:
It seems somewhat interesting that people who do regularly post on the forums complain about something which was pretty clearly communicated on the forums. With plenty of notice given too.
I didn’t read these forums myself until about a year ago. Then I noticed that multiple updates in-game stated that for more information I should check posts in the forums. I did so, and lo and behold there was indeed a bounty of additional information. If you want to know what’s going on in the game, read the forums. CG say that regularly. They give enough in game, and tell us where to find the rest. It’s not their fault if people are too lazy to go and find the information, it’s not exactly hidden.
Whether we knew about it before or not, it's still an extremely unhelpful thing to do. It wouldn't solve the major problem. Everything now is a long grind, pieces for 6* mods, pieces for relics, pieces for other gear types. Cg claimed they would help with the gear crunch, all I can see is they've done nothing at best, and made it alot harder at worst.
