"MaruMaru;c-2398886" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398880" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398878" wrote:
They should have %100 sent ingame notice a few times leading to this period. I also didn't want be forced scrap all those gear. Now I ended up getting short of haat gear that wasn't a smidge of a concern before. It was cg's responsibility to figure out a way so that people didn't get double the gear (since this is something cg doesn't want) but also retain the value of what they had without having to do anything. Neither of these things happened. And I'm rather sure that nothing like compensation or even a response about an issue they incured on some unlucky portion of the playerbase will happen. My suggestion would be to either bombard support or just come into terms with happened.
While I agree that an in game notice would have been a good idea, I disagree with everything else. CG is not obligated to do anything you seem to think, especially since they posted it in the forums. If people choose not to get or be involved, then they also give up the right to be personally notified. This mentality that CG needed to notify everyone is like saying they have to mail everyone the event calendar, or the roadmaps.
If anyone is upset they lost half of their unused relic scrap hoard, then tell them to start checking the forums so they know what is coming up.
Many notifications send you towards forums "to check in more detail". There doesn't need to be wall of text in game and there never is. If there is nothing such, is it really a normal expectation to check forums at random times -just in case-?
And ofc social diffusion of this information covered a good portion of the playerbase, especially the regulars. This is not akin to a calendar or road map. Those things doesn't actively do any changes to what you have. Since no such notification happened, what would you propose to the effected population being unaware due to something cg didn't do? I'm guessing "git gud" is incoming.
"AlexanderG;c-2398893" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398891" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398890" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398889" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398886" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398880" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398878" wrote:
They should have %100 sent ingame notice a few times leading to this period. I also didn't want be forced scrap all those gear. Now I ended up getting short of haat gear that wasn't a smidge of a concern before. It was cg's responsibility to figure out a way so that people didn't get double the gear (since this is something cg doesn't want) but also retain the value of what they had without having to do anything. Neither of these things happened. And I'm rather sure that nothing like compensation or even a response about an issue they incured on some unlucky portion of the playerbase will happen. My suggestion would be to either bombard support or just come into terms with happened.
While I agree that an in game notice would have been a good idea, I disagree with everything else. CG is not obligated to do anything you seem to think, especially since they posted it in the forums. If people choose not to get or be involved, then they also give up the right to be personally notified. This mentality that CG needed to notify everyone is like saying they have to mail everyone the event calendar, or the roadmaps.
If anyone is upset they lost half of their unused relic scrap hoard, then tell them to start checking the forums so they know what is coming up.
Many notifications send you towards forums "to check in more detail". There doesn't need to be wall of text in game and there never is. If there is nothing such, is it really a normal expectation to check forums at random times -just in case-?
And ofc social diffusion of this information covered a good portion of the playerbase, especially the regulars. This is not akin to a calendar or road map. Those things doesn't actively do any changes to what you have. Since no such notification happened, what would you propose to the effected population being unaware due to something cg didn't do? I'm guessing "git gud" is incoming.
To your first question, yes. That’s what being involved means. You stick your head in the sand, fine, but then don’t complain you weren’t notified when it was posted. A lot of things work this way, most notably government. When they pass a new law that you are expected to obey, they don’t mail you a copy. At least not here they don’t. They post it publicly, and after that, including in court proceedings, it is your responsibility to be aware of it.
To your second question, see above. Guildmates can spread the word, or people can get involved at least reading the forums. And, as I stated before, it would have been a good move to do an in game mail, but it’s not CGs fault if they made the information publicly available ahead of time and a group (whatever size) chose to skip it. Definitely not a compensation thing or even a screw up on CG’s part.
Let's not hyperbole to irrelevant things. Being involved or in this case you actually mean being a regular or a forumer shouldn't be a requirement to properly play a mobile game, being a casual doesn't mean that you are now open hunt season and it's all on you. It needed to be posted as an ingame notification which directs to the forums for further details. Didn't happen. End of story.
Naturally you are aware I can't possibly be someone that's effected not knowing about it.
Yes, but that doesn’t change the fact that if people want to know about changes like this, all they have to do is hit mail, then forums, and read.
Could CG have done more? Yes. Was CG required to do more? No. So no compensation, and IMO blame goes to the accounts with their head in the sand over CG.
I think yours is an odd point. CG decided to make a notable change to gear but as far as you're concerned they had no obligation to notify people in game. And yet there is an in-game messaging system that CG uses for other things.
Clearly CG had no such requirement to do so, I don't that is being argued. But I think a fair argument can be made that they should have done so.
"MaruMaru;c-2398898" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398897" wrote:"AlexanderG;c-2398893" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398891" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398890" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398889" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398886" wrote:"nfidel2k;c-2398880" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2398878" wrote:
They should have %100 sent ingame notice a few times leading to this period. I also didn't want be forced scrap all those gear. Now I ended up getting short of haat gear that wasn't a smidge of a concern before. It was cg's responsibility to figure out a way so that people didn't get double the gear (since this is something cg doesn't want) but also retain the value of what they had without having to do anything. Neither of these things happened. And I'm rather sure that nothing like compensation or even a response about an issue they incured on some unlucky portion of the playerbase will happen. My suggestion would be to either bombard support or just come into terms with happened.
While I agree that an in game notice would have been a good idea, I disagree with everything else. CG is not obligated to do anything you seem to think, especially since they posted it in the forums. If people choose not to get or be involved, then they also give up the right to be personally notified. This mentality that CG needed to notify everyone is like saying they have to mail everyone the event calendar, or the roadmaps.
If anyone is upset they lost half of their unused relic scrap hoard, then tell them to start checking the forums so they know what is coming up.
Many notifications send you towards forums "to check in more detail". There doesn't need to be wall of text in game and there never is. If there is nothing such, is it really a normal expectation to check forums at random times -just in case-?
And ofc social diffusion of this information covered a good portion of the playerbase, especially the regulars. This is not akin to a calendar or road map. Those things doesn't actively do any changes to what you have. Since no such notification happened, what would you propose to the effected population being unaware due to something cg didn't do? I'm guessing "git gud" is incoming.
To your first question, yes. That’s what being involved means. You stick your head in the sand, fine, but then don’t complain you weren’t notified when it was posted. A lot of things work this way, most notably government. When they pass a new law that you are expected to obey, they don’t mail you a copy. At least not here they don’t. They post it publicly, and after that, including in court proceedings, it is your responsibility to be aware of it.
To your second question, see above. Guildmates can spread the word, or people can get involved at least reading the forums. And, as I stated before, it would have been a good move to do an in game mail, but it’s not CGs fault if they made the information publicly available ahead of time and a group (whatever size) chose to skip it. Definitely not a compensation thing or even a screw up on CG’s part.
Let's not hyperbole to irrelevant things. Being involved or in this case you actually mean being a regular or a forumer shouldn't be a requirement to properly play a mobile game, being a casual doesn't mean that you are now open hunt season and it's all on you. It needed to be posted as an ingame notification which directs to the forums for further details. Didn't happen. End of story.
Naturally you are aware I can't possibly be someone that's effected not knowing about it.
Yes, but that doesn’t change the fact that if people want to know about changes like this, all they have to do is hit mail, then forums, and read.
Could CG have done more? Yes. Was CG required to do more? No. So no compensation, and IMO blame goes to the accounts with their head in the sand over CG.
I think yours is an odd point. CG decided to make a notable change to gear but as far as you're concerned they had no obligation to notify people in game. And yet there is an in-game messaging system that CG uses for other things.
Clearly CG had no such requirement to do so, I don't that is being argued. But I think a fair argument can be made that they should have done so.
Not as far as I am concerned; it’s as far as the User Agreement every account signs to play. You can read it yourself in the gear icon, under legal.
And no it’s not a fair argument, because ignorance isn’t an excuse. Hopefully the accounts that care start checking the forums. But complaining that CG should have done more instead of the accounts doing more is backwards. CG made it public, and far enough in advance. Stop trying to blame them.
What has legality have to do with it? Are people sueing EA because their gear lost value? By the same token of that agreement they can simply delete your account as well...which is by your logic legit. That agreement also has absolutely nothing specific to this game, it's just a "get our corporate backs covered on all fronts, so noone can do nothing about anything but we have every right to do whatever we want" agreement.
"MaruMaru;c-2398926" wrote:Sounds good to me.
Consider someone sitting on thousands of carbanti/gun/cuffs which now has double of them.
"yolkywareagle;c-2398844" wrote:
is anybody else getting a million ppl to g12 and 1-2 to relic?
"Tellithowitis;c-2398949" wrote:"TVF;c-2398940" wrote:
Lots of things sound good to the players which are unreasonable to expect.
What is unreasonable? Taking your current stash value and giving you half of what it's worth in mats before reducing it's value is unreasonable? Having adequate in game warnings as well as a definite date for the update is unreasonable? No it's only unreasonable when you have the lowest kinds of expectations from a company to act in a way that benefits everyone instead of just themselves
"TVF;c-2398966" wrote:
Already asked and answered
