First time poster feeling compelled to use this title ...I’ve played SWGOH for 2.5 years and probably spent £500 in this time ... it could be more and I don’t want to check. In this time I spent my hard earned money on necessary teams. Teebo for the Rancor raid, Jawas for the Tank raid.I know I’m not alone in feeling exploited...I level characters (GP is 2.7 million) and aim to be as free to play as possible. The game doesn’t want this though...Jawas have been doing a good amount of damage in T5 Sith Raid through the Scavengers unique ability ... around 1.2 million per team, all phases, but now detonators have been nerfed. I can’t see any patch notes being transparent about this. In the same way I have a zader team that does 4-9 million per phase, again dot damage was tweaked, nerfed and tenacity increased to prevent higher scores, in my opinion. The list goes on, and I will not be aware of all issues. On of my guild members said today it’s like buying a 7 seater car, only to find out when it’s delivered the manufacturer decided 5 seats was enough.I am looking for reassurance from CG that things are going to improve, quickly. And also a link to the patch notes where abilities were changed ...

I feel the same way - sink comparable amount of $$ as you. I started on Dec 2015. I also feel exploited and do not have much enjoyment to go on. I just barely hang on because of sink cost and hopeful that things might get better ( they are not) Producers and game designers just do what they want to do or are told to do discarding the community feedback. They give features community didn't ask for and sometimes didn't want while neglecting the things community is asking for. You can be the judge whether things will get improve quickly or another lip service with totally opposite execution of being asked. I am now drawn towards other games.

"Kyno;c-1590669" wrote:There is your problem. The integration mechanics chnage as you go up levels. They all have tenacity buffs on damage, and that buff increases in each tier of the raid, so that will cause you to have to adjust your strategy and plan as you move up in tiers. Here is the final heroic tier version, compare that to your tier. The stacking tenacity is brutal to any buffs after the first hit.The 50% increase is the same across all tiers. The difference in tiers is in base tenacity.

"Slaydbymegatron;c-1590690" wrote:Zyno as i understand... Kyno FINALLY got a zeta. About darn time! ;)

Can't speak for spenders in general since I'm F2P but I wouldn't hold your breath the game is generally directed and updated for the biggest spenders. The 1% that spend thousands or 100's of thousands.

Tbh, I think the first part of the post is really not relevant to what you’re trying to convey. Unless you’re saying “I (used to) spend money and I’m a long time player, so please make improvements to the sith raid” I think everyone/ majority already acknowledges that the sith raid needs to be re-tuned. Adding the part that you spent money on the game really is irrelevant because that’s your choice in a game that can be played purely F2P. That being said, new raids have different mechanics, you can’t expect a Teebo team do do good or solo in HAAT. Or a Jawa team to solo the Pit Raid. There’s different teams for each raid. Also, teams for the Pit Raid and HAAT are F2P to farm.

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phyopine
7 years ago
I feel the same way - sink comparable amount of $$ as you. I started on Dec 2015.

I also feel exploited and do not have much enjoyment to go on. I just barely hang on because of sink cost and hopeful that things might get better ( they are not)

Producers and game designers just do what they want to do or are told to do discarding the community feedback. They give features community didn't ask for and sometimes didn't want while neglecting the things community is asking for.

You can be the judge whether things will get improve quickly or another lip service with totally opposite execution of being asked.

I am now drawn towards other games.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
"Kyno;c-1590669" wrote:
There is your problem. The integration mechanics chnage as you go up levels. They all have tenacity buffs on damage, and that buff increases in each tier of the raid, so that will cause you to have to adjust your strategy and plan as you move up in tiers. Here is the final heroic tier version, compare that to your tier. The stacking tenacity is brutal to any buffs after the first hit.

The 50% increase is the same across all tiers. The difference in tiers is in base tenacity.
Nikoms565
7 years ago
"Slaydbymegatron;c-1590690" wrote:
Zyno as i understand...

Kyno FINALLY got a zeta. About darn time! ;)
Boba_The_Fetter
7 years ago
Can't speak for spenders in general since I'm F2P but I wouldn't hold your breath the game is generally directed and updated for the biggest spenders. The 1% that spend thousands or 100's of thousands.
Athusk
7 years ago
Tbh, I think the first part of the post is really not relevant to what you’re trying to convey.

Unless you’re saying “I (used to) spend money and I’m a long time player, so please make improvements to the sith raid”

I think everyone/ majority already acknowledges that the sith raid needs to be re-tuned. Adding the part that you spent money on the game really is irrelevant because that’s your choice in a game that can be played purely F2P.

That being said, new raids have different mechanics, you can’t expect a Teebo team do do good or solo in HAAT. Or a Jawa team to solo the Pit Raid. There’s different teams for each raid.

Also, teams for the Pit Raid and HAAT are F2P to farm.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
I have not seen too much posting about lower tier raids, and maybe the mechanics are altered enough, but debuff based attacks and attack plans dont do well u less very well timed. If you are getting them to stick, thsts great and no changes to their damages have been made.
Slaydbymegatron
7 years ago
Perhaps my point isn’t conveying what I want to really get across.

What confidence do I have investing more into a game where there is constant “rebalancing”, for what I consider beta content?

Kyno are you saying that no changes to damage output have been made in the past 3 months? I can’t believe that if that’s the case.

Leafty...zader is a big deal, and your comment about debuff heavy squads is my point. To progress from tier 4 we couldn’t build new teams, so we’re loading debuff teams with high potency (100%+) to increase damage. Since most players have zader now, Jawas etc I can see why it wouldn’t help CG with cash flow if they were relevant.

Building 5 new teams to g12, isn’t f2p, which the game claims be.
Athusk
7 years ago
Not sure what you’re talking about I’ve almost build 3 new teams to G12 since the Sith raid release (JTR, Nightsisters and Imp Troopers) - it is definitely F2P. Also, they don’t NEED to be G12, G11 works just fine with decent mods. However, G12 does slightly increase damage.

Edit:
I’m any game, the “meta” or “what is good” is always in constant flux, that is what keeps the game alive. Would you be happy playing a game where everyone runs the same team in arena all the time?

Yes, some rebalance issues I don’t nexessarily agree with (ships) but it’s also something you have to work around. Despite not liking the new ship rework, I still managed to increase my fleet ranking, and now closing in the top 10s if I’m consistent with my battles.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
"Slaydbymegatron;c-1590643" wrote:
Perhaps my point isn’t conveying what I want to really get across.

What confidence do I have investing more into a game where there is constant “rebalancing”, for what I consider beta content?

Kyno are you saying that no changes to damage output have been made in the past 3 months? I can’t believe that if that’s the case.

Leafty...zader is a big deal, and your comment about debuff heavy squads is my point. To progress from tier 4 we couldn’t build new teams, so we’re loading debuff teams with high potency (100%+) to increase damage. Since most players have zader now, Jawas etc I can see why it wouldn’t help CG with cash flow if they were relevant.

Building 5 new teams to g12, isn’t f2p, which the game claims be.

There is your problem. The integration mechanics chnage as you go up levels. They all have tenacity buffs on damage, and that buff increases in each tier of the raid, so that will cause you to have to adjust your strategy and plan as you move up in tiers. Here is the final heroic tier version, compare that to your tier. The stacking tenacity is brutal to any buffs after the first hit.

And yes you are correct. In the areas you are talking about there have been no changes to the amount of damage done by those effects.
Slaydbymegatron
7 years ago
Zyno as i understand, while tenacity increases after each hit, it resets after each boss takes a turn. With base tenacity increasing by 10% per defeated ally. Which as far as I can see is a hidden mechanic?