Easy counter to phoneix squad

Also Phoenix squad do seem to be based on counter, healing and TM up so I think OP is right. Do they have anyone who cleanses though?

"Boba_The_Fetter;955595" wrote:
Insure would love to have a good reason to juice up my death trooper. He just looks so damn cool

Agreed. He's one of my favorites.

"Boba_The_Fetter;955598" wrote:
Also Phoenix squad do seem to be based on counter, healing and TM up so I think OP is right. Do they have anyone who cleanses though?

Only kanan. But he can only cleanse one guy. Basically DT is the ultimate counter to these guys.

- his basic inflicts daze (the bane of Phoenix squad) and since they are all rebels he hits twice. And if maul already inflicts daze he will stun.
- healing immunity aoe will wreck this team, it looks to me like they rely heavily on healing.
- terminate is a perfect counter to backup plan

Yea he will own these teams.

Kill Kanan and the counters stop.

"Twin;955439" wrote:
Not a great theory crafter but I just don't see phoenix as a Zaul counter... On paper it looks like it should work but Zaul will most likely still have speed advantage and get all the debuffs on before the health gain kicks in.

I would think at that point the damage is done.

Speed advantage can be overcome. Every zaul team I battle they all normally take turns before me.

From what I see a lot of people see a full phoenix team as an easy target, but I think the way to use them is, maybe 3 and then gk,rex,zarris,jka or chaze in the background to bring them up to a better lvl.

Not sure on the best combo, still looking over the skills.

"Kyno;955682" wrote:
From what I see a lot of people see a full phoenix team as an easy target, but I think the way to use them is, maybe 3 and then gk,rex,zarris,jka or chaze in the background to bring them up to a better lvl.

Not sure on the best combo, still looking over the skills.

I don't see them bring viable without a full squad.

"scuba;955644" wrote:

"Twin;955439" wrote:
Not a great theory crafter but I just don't see phoenix as a Zaul counter... On paper it looks like it should work but Zaul will most likely still have speed advantage and get all the debuffs on before the health gain kicks in.

I would think at that point the damage is done.

Speed advantage can be overcome. Every zaul team I battle they all normally take turns before me.

Correct, but that has lkittle to do with this squad being the Zaul counter but rather another character being the counter (rex).

If another phoenix comes out with good DPS and good unique then a phoenix + Rex would be an option. Rex for the initial debuffs and Phoenix heal on debuff afterwards.

I just don't see herra's leader ability being that great without another good unique.

"Twin;955704" wrote:

"scuba;955644" wrote:

"Twin;955439" wrote:
Not a great theory crafter but I just don't see phoenix as a Zaul counter... On paper it looks like it should work but Zaul will most likely still have speed advantage and get all the debuffs on before the health gain kicks in.

I would think at that point the damage is done.

Speed advantage can be overcome. Every zaul team I battle they all normally take turns before me.

Correct, but that has lkittle to do with this squad being the Zaul counter but rather another character being the counter (rex).

If another phoenix comes out with good DPS and good unique then a phoenix + Rex would be an option. Rex for the initial debuffs and Phoenix heal on debuff afterwards.

I just don't see herra's leader ability being that great without another good unique.

All the Phoenix members moves have been released.

"Twin;955704" wrote:

"scuba;955644" wrote:

"Twin;955439" wrote:
Not a great theory crafter but I just don't see phoenix as a Zaul counter... On paper it looks like it should work but Zaul will most likely still have speed advantage and get all the debuffs on before the health gain kicks in.

I would think at that point the damage is done.

Speed advantage can be overcome. Every zaul team I battle they all normally take turns before me.

Correct, but that has lkittle to do with this squad being the Zaul counter but rather another character being the counter (rex).

If another phoenix comes out with good DPS and good unique then a phoenix + Rex would be an option. Rex for the initial debuffs and Phoenix heal on debuff afterwards.

I just don't see herra's leader ability being that great without another good unique.

I don't think they,phoenix, are necessarily a zaul counter. Zaul counters already exist. I also think Zaul teams already out there will be a good counter to the phoenix teams.

I also agree with @Kyno it is going to be a mix of three of them and 2 others, my guess being chaze.