7 years ago

Farming teams. ... future exhaustion

If I’m not mistaken, we only have certain spots where we can farm new toons. Hard nodes, Cantina nodes, Guild Event store, guild store, ship battle nodes... now I may be forgetting something.

This is going to be a huge problem when the Solo team drops. The Old Republic crew after that will be annoying as well.

Since the big Wicket plus NS drops, I’ve farmed Wicket, Mother Talzin and NS Zombie to 7 stars. Visas and Holdo are about 20/100 into 6-Star. Sion is like 25/85 in 5-star. I haven’t begun to farm Rose, and I’ll begin my Bossk farm once Visas is finished.

My heartfelt analysis here is that it’s exhausting. I haven’t spent crystals on cantina or mod refreshes since Wicket ... it’s kind of taken over my game.

When Phoenix was released, I thought the farming path for that team was perfect. Ezra and Hera were in cantina (plus Ezra had an occasional pop in ship store), Sabine was hard node only (plus Guild Store before she was mysteriously removed), Zeb was in GW store, Kanan was in Arena store and Chopper was in Cantina store... that was completely manageable! The whole team dropped and I *almost* finished them in time for the Thrawn event (oddly enough, it was Zeb in GW that fell short of 7-stars)... but it was a team that was released together that was collectively a pretty manageable farm.

Sure, Ezra and Hera conflicted with each other and Sabine was eventually hard node only... but what are the options for the Solo team?

Hard nodes? That’s potentially SEVEN hard node farms. Which is completely unmanageable... and I’ve almost finished 5 hard node toons since Wicket and crew came out. So I’m pretty quick on that...

Guid Store? Best place for gear.

Guild Event Store? Now I’m done with the Hoda/Wampa farms finally, but if there’s a new TB, we’ll have a new toon that costs 90k GECs ... but I’m actually looking forward to buying some gear from there (finally!).

Cantina nodes? I’m lukewarm here, but 1-2 toons would be better than other alternatives. But it’s tough to balance refreshing there when all my resources are already going to hard nodes. Plus one day, I’d like to focus on mods.

Ship battle nodes? I’m fine with that. I guess.

But my point is that it’s pretty nice to have 7 toons come to the game... when arena store, Cantina store and GW store are on the table. It gives us choices and lets us farm a team without killing every resource we have.

Again, I’m fine with things now... but the Solo team is going to be REALLY, really hard to build when I’m still working on those other toons. And I’m sure I’m not alone there.

RawneKarrde
7 years ago
Just wait solo team, then all these new kotor toons too. CG’s answer is simple buy more crystals.
Acidwormss
7 years ago
They said in the Q%A session that arena, galactic war, and Cantina store are just for farming shards now once you finish all characters as no new characters will be added to them. Cantina and single hard nodes and maybe, guild store too are the only way forward now.
Ebbda75
7 years ago
Scary prospect is if they add these to the fleet PvE map.

It's common knowledge that a decent percentage of players do their fleet daily and call it a day. Imagine the chaos of Nest is added to the final hard node? I'd sense more than a disturbance in the force. There's a bunch of XP spots just sat there.

OP has a point. I think with the constant influx of toons and new factions now it's very daunting indeed.
Brendo_Macabo
7 years ago
I understand that they cut Arena/Cantina/GW completely... but it doesn’t seem to be realistic if they drop an entire team on us.

How do we do a panic farm now if they have a legendary after the Solo or KOTOR drop? We have no realistic way to do a Thrawn-type farm if the whole team is on a hard node or fleet battle node.

My point is that those three dead stores serve a purpose when we have a 6-toon team drop at once. Even then, it’s still hard to farm the rest of the team, when that’s your focus.

The Phoenix model should be standard. It’s not easy, but it’s a fair divide of our resources...

And to an end-gamer, Arena Store is a source of credits/prestige mats, Cantina is fleet currency... really, it’s only GW that’s the pure shard shop cash in. So... it’s not like putting characters in those “dead” stores is particularly easy since you give up stuff you need en masse.
88aa5c6517cc142
7 years ago
Was just thinking about starting this topic as well. And what makes it worse is they are not only introducing all new characters as a single hard node farm at this point, they're actually turning older characters into single hard node farms as well. At the very least some of these toons could go to multiple nodes...

Edit: And just as I finished posting that one of my arena shard mates announced he's quitting because the grind is wearing thin.
88aa5c6517cc142
7 years ago
"casper1jr;c-1598424" wrote:
This is common on all free games. You will never have the top character, top ship, whatever because the toons is where money is made. You're looking for a fast pace free ride and that's not how the game is designed. Unless your willing to fork out cash you need to pick your farming wisely.

When someone sells something there has to be something in return. In this case, it's a better squad then yours. Don't hate

PS, I haven't spent a dime on this game. I just understand the concept of EA trying to make some cash. These games need regular maintenance as well so a steady income is needed to even keep the game alive.

I think you're missing the point with this post. The problem is now every toon to come to the game is on par with the most difficult farm in the game, and in no way can you argue all the new toons are "top" toons. Even the new trash toons are going to single hard node farms at this point. That is not sustainable going forward.
Brendo_Macabo
7 years ago
I should clarify some stuff. I don’t mind the work. Wicket, Talzin and Zombie have been finished by the slow hard node farm. Visas is 24/100 and Holdo is 30/100... that’s not the issue. The issue is that it’s exhausting. (That’s 5 single hard node farms since they brought out Wicket and the NS!)

The whole current FTP farm system has turned into a slog.

I’m at the point where the only farms in the game that are left are the new characters. I’ll get them the hard way... slowly or quickly.

BUT. The real problem is coming with the Solo team, and any future large content drop. 7 toons are coming around the same time... there’s no way to get them built quickly.

This might not matter now... but what if we have a panic farm for Revan from the Old Republic toons?! Or if it’s not Revan, it’ll be something else.

Team farming like that is best set up like Phoenix was... 3 easy... the rest hard. Otherwise, I don’t really care about having to work for a single toon (like Bossk)... or a meta defining toon (like Nest... wherever she goes, I’ll follow lol).
bcarry82
7 years ago
"Still looking to the horizon. Never here! Now, hmm? The need in front of your nose!"

Focus on your current farms. Don't get distracted. Looking to the future causes unnecessary anxiety and reduces the fun you can have in-game in the "here and now"
Paladin033112
7 years ago
This game just requires and ever-increasing amount of patience for us F2Pers. But other than that, I would say this game is actually friendly for F2P compared to other mobile app games I have tried. Still agree with OP though, the Pheonix layout was by far the best! I hope they will do the same thing for Old Republic. Also hope they give the "Old Republic" to all the other toons we now have from that era.
Sargana
7 years ago
"BubbaFett;c-1598440" wrote:
You aren't meant to farm them all..... Pick a direction and go with it..... It's really not that complicated....

Forgive me but this is an obtuse answer -- in the context of the whole game, no you are not meant to farm every toon at once -- but that isn't what the OP is pointing out.

In the context of the Solo toons, which were designed as a cohesive synergistic team -- you quite clearly DO need all of those toons to really bring that whole team to its potential. For the incoming KOTOR team and LS Revan (who I speculate will ultimately be the locus of that team) you will also need all of the toons to really make the best use of it.

Why? Because the toons were designed to function together -- just like Phoenix was. Farming just Young Lando for example, will probably be deadweight in terms of utility until you have finished the other members of the team. It doesn't make sense to jam all of the solo toons into farming locations that compete with themselves, because it drastically reduces the incentive to farm one by hooking the benefit of farming the character to a competing farm.

It's a very different value judgment if I look at my options and say "I can farm Sion on this hard fleet node and use him on any Sith team" or I say "I can farm L3 and Lando on two different fleet nodes, which will take me twice as long / twice as many resources, and I won't be able to use either of them efficiently until both are finished". I'm probably not going to pick the longer more expensive farm to do that.

The way the Phoenix farm was structured was very smart, I could farm the entire team concurrently if I wanted. I could also farm them one at a time if that was more prudent to me. What the OP is pointing out is that if you take Arena/GW/Cantina/Fleet stores off the table, then structuring the Solo team or KOTOR team in the same way becomes very prohibitive and doesn't make much sense.

I don't know what CG is planning to do with the two new teams farming-wise, but if they put three toons on a single hard node, two on a single fleet node, and one on a cantina node (as slicing is introduced), I can't help but feel that's a pretty bad mistake in terms of engagement.