I've seen hints, hints and speculation, that February will have something exciting to a large portion of the players: Revan. I'd love it if it were true, but I'm thinking if it's related to Revan at all it'll be a future release window for Revan himself. Here's my thoughts:
We've had two hero's journey events, so far. One in August, one in December. Months 8 and 12 out of the year. I anticipate Revan could be another Hero's Journey, set in April. And the groundwork will begin to be laid out in the coming weeks.
If I'm right, I'd expect at least two new characters to be required, in addition to characters that are already in the game. My guess is that this Hero's Journey would be the first to offer divergent paths, requiring different characters. If so, I'd expect more new characters to make each side require a bit of money to feasibly unlock Revan.
Assuming there are two paths, here's the required characters I'd expect for each pathway:
Light path (unlocks Master Revan, Jedi, Support):
Bastila Shan (New character, released in February) Carth Onasi (New character, released in February) HK-47 Jedi Consular Jedi Knight Guardian
Dark Path (unlocks Darth Revan, Sith, Attacker):
Darth Malak (New character, released in February) Sith Emperor (New character, released in February) HK-47 Sith Trooper Sith Assassin
Light Path would follow the formerly canonical events of KotOR. First part is the Taris segment, second is Dantooine, then Manaan, Kashyyk, & Tatooine, in no particular order, then the revelation on Malak's ship, then the Star Forge.
Dark Path would follow Revan's story leading up to and including part of KotOR, as told in the various Old Republic stories. First would be a Mandalorian War battle, then Malachor V, then Dromund Kaas, then a Jedi Civil War battle, then the fight with Bastila, then the revelation on Malak's ship, then the Star Forge.
This would make use of every existing Old Republic character, give us a few more, give CG a panic farm to monetize, and properly set up (via NPCs) a few new units to introduce down the road (Mandalorian soldiers, Mandalore himself, Mission and Zaalbar, and many others).
"Ugnaught4Ever;c-1412553" wrote: It will be new movie stuff...Im guessing Rose, Paige, Hodo, Resistance Bomber and the Radus are coming and you'll need the new FO stuff (unmasked Kylo, Etc) to unlock some of it
I’m trying to forget about how horrible Rose and Hodo were... I hope to god we don’t have to deal with them in game anytime soon.
Honestly I don’t know who “Paige” even is... sad some of the characters were so dull that they made literally no imprint on my memory at all lol.
Were you a big Bistan fan? "Memorable" doesn't really seem to be a factor in who gets introduced to this game.
"Cstone812;c-1412837" wrote: Yea exactly what everyone wants. Horrible characters from TLJ. Barf.
No one said everyone but no one said no one.
Basically, speak for yourself. I want two more Res characters for my two Res teams.
Also I'd like Snoke and Hux.
Hux? Seriously? The emo Ron Weasley that was the laughing stock of the last movie? Yea he was such a badass character.
Ok, your dislike is noted. Thanks.
Some kind of justification for Hux would be interesting - I just don't see anything there that would be desirable to have as a toon, but maybe I'm missing something. Is he already desirable in a joke-like way similar to how many would want Jar Jar? He's almost like they took Dark Helmet's character from Space Balls and actually put it in a SW movie. That's what I get from the character, but what are you finding appealing? Not trying to debate, but just genuinely intrigued to hear a different view.
I like Hux as well. I believe he is way more than what meets the eye. If you put TLJ in context with Rian‘s other works, and the subtle (or rather slapped in your face, which for whatever reason a lot people didn‘t get but took as presented) message of the film, it is clear what I am aiming at. Additionally, did you realize for example, that when when Snoke talks about
the benefits of keeping a rabid cur at his side. He is not talking about Hux? During the hunting he has proven to be -whether it makes much sense- be more of a tactician as well. Thinking things through. Instead of simply sending Tie squadrons in and loosing people, he tried to minimize losses. Even Snoke, after initially wanting to punish him for loosing the artillery dreadnought kind of praised him and approved his tactic. After Snoke‘s demise, he points his weapon at Kylo and decides not to shoot him. His „rival“... When Kylo wants to fight Luke, he is the one trying to hold back the rabid cur and is being force thrown into the wall. Hux is a good and reasonable commander, who seems to take risks when necessary and avoids them, when necessary. At least that‘s my impression of him, although he got included in comical scenes on purpose to make us believe he‘s a clown. Remember we have been told MANY times in the movie and the movie‘s messages, that not everything is as it seems and that there are deception, manipulation and diversions everywhere throughout the film!
So, looking at him from TFA and TLJ standpoint, I like Hux and want him as well. First and foremost as capital ship commander of a resurgent-class star destroyer. He makes most sense as a fleetcommander as he in fact IS in both movies and I ponder what kind of toon he‘d get. I can actually imagine a R2 like support toon with buffs for FO-teams. Inspirational speeches as cherry on top XD
I'm a darkside player here in GoH - I prefer their kits and how they play with debuffs and control, etc. I'd love to be on team FO / darkside, but ....
Sadly to me - the movie made the FO characters pretty lame. Snoke ended up being a pretty big joke and disappointment getting killed so fast and with no development at all. Kill him to further the story of Kylo and his journey - totally understand - but he was waxed so unceremoniously it was extremely anti-climactic. I didn't expect him to die in this movie at all, so death at any stage would have been a shock and big switch from expectations...this style of death though was just disappointing. You couldn't have found a player that wanted Snoke more than me prior to seeing the movie...but having him here would just remind me of how lame his character was in the story. Hux was made to be a fool by Poe's stall joke that was morphing in to a your mama joke at the end...so ... just have zero interest in either of these guys now. Note that I did like TLJ so I'm not a TLJ hater - I liked that it was different from prior SW and wasn't straight out of the can and formulaic..but these two characters really got the short end of the stick IMO.
EDIT: And they did the same to Captain Phasma....surprising as she actually has a full novel about her, but they just canned her with hardly any respect at all. Again I liked TLJ as a whole for it's overall story and different take, but they really did just toss nearly all the major FO characters in trash can in this movie. I think after watching the movie, the FO characters I have the most respect and desire for now are the Praetorian Guards. The rest of the movie just made me wonder how such a sad sack of villains could even have gotten to the point of being dominant over the galaxy. SW needs to start showing the villains at their peaks because the "off screen" competency and "on screen" incompetency they always portray is so drastic... LTJ in particular was pretty drastic depiction relative to the OT or prequels.
Well, you see that they switched the roles of Rebels and Empire in Resistance and First Order, do you? While the Empire had debuffs and Rebels had buffs, they made an 180° on that with Resistance and First Order, thus I strongly believe that Hux wouldn‘t be the debuff type.
While there is truth behind what you say in relation to the movie as is, I expect massive reveals in Ep IX, and here is why:
There are so many comments from Rian that make so much more sense if we do not take TLJ at face value. Snoke‘s most likely not dead. Throughout the film he shows how much more powerful of a force user he is than any other character we‘ve got to know so far and he keeps talking about his plans, manipulations and deceitfulness. It‘s like they slapped us in the face with his op-ness, then slapped us in the face with his truly anti-climatic 'death'.
Why he‘s not dead you‘d might ask: -deception -super powerful -very old (if he was to die so easily he wouldn’t have gotten that old) -introduction of force projection <— and this is the major point
Compare TFA Snoke with TLJ Snoke. They actually look different. TLJ Snoke looks younger, less shriveled and even has fewer scars/less deep scars. You know who else looked quite younger? Luke. Snoke might not even look like Snoke. Apparently you can alter your whole look when projecting. Maybe Snoke is actually of the same species as Yoda? Maybe Hux is actually Snoke and pretends to be the fool? (Okay given the last ones are pure speculation and quite a stretch. Yet, the differences in style are more than 'mistakes', they are way too apparent.) Also, similar to Luke, Snoke has never been touched, nor did he touch someone. Iirc, he even stopped slightly before touching Rey‘s chin. I‘m pretty sure a powerful being like him can fake to be halved by a lightsaber/lightsword as well. Maybe he orchestrated it so, that a new Sith is born (Kylo). Kylo as apprentice kills his master the same way Siths usually did since the rule of two. That would make Kylo a new Sith, while Rey with the books would be a new Jedi... who knows
The whole movie's plot was, nothing is as it seems. Luke, Snoke, Rey‘s parents (Kylo is right, but wrong as well with the dead Junkers), Leia's death. Everything has been turned, twisted in unexpected ways. Heck, even if it is the one that annoys me most, Holdo jumping with the Raddus into the Supremacy wasn‘t what was expected -or wanted as it leads to question why the rebels as desperate as they have been, not simply autopiloted ships into the death stars or super dreadnaughts like the Executor...
For what reason Snoke played Resistance and First Order alike, we can only speculate. Maybe he belongs to a third faction and wants to get rid of both? Maybe he is the Prime Jedi and tries to bring balance by getting rid of extremist dark and light factions? But it would be the de facto worst movie ever created, if proven otherwise (from plot to mere depiction of characters, which I doubt happened. I rather think we just haven‘t seen the full picture) I additionally do not believe that Phasma died. We thought she died in TFA, she didn‘t. We expect her to die a fiery death in TLJ, I assume she didn‘t. She might be disfigured and blind on one eye, but I doubt she is dead.
I personally think TLJ was the worst film in the Star Wars franchise even counting the Ewok Christmas specials! Yet, depending on Episode IX it could turn into a, not so straight forward film after film, new step into a new generation of Star Wars storytelling. Which would still make for a bad ep 8 but an awesome combination of ep8&9 that need to be regarded as belonging together as coherent story.
That‘s my 2cents. Well, we‘ll see after Ep IX whether Star Wars went down the drain or not...
Some kind of justification for Hux would be interesting - I just don't see anything there that would be desirable to have as a toon, but maybe I'm missing something. Is he already desirable in a joke-like way similar to how many would want Jar Jar? He's almost like they took Dark Helmet's character from Space Balls and actually put it in a SW movie. That's what I get from the character, but what are you finding appealing? Not trying to debate, but just genuinely intrigued to hear a different view.
Characterization in the films aside, it would be nice to have more variety of characters and abilities in FO and in the dark side in general. We also need an FO fleet commander, and I think Hux would be the obvious fit for that role. Hux is one of just four named First Order characters. Seems like we should have at least all four of them.
"Ugnaught4Ever;c-1412553" wrote: It will be new movie stuff...Im guessing Rose, Paige, Hodo, Resistance Bomber and the Radus are coming and you'll need the new FO stuff (unmasked Kylo, Etc) to unlock some of it
I’m trying to forget about how horrible Rose and Hodo were... I hope to god we don’t have to deal with them in game anytime soon.
Honestly I don’t know who “Paige” even is... sad some of the characters were so dull that they made literally no imprint on my memory at all lol.
Were you a big Bistan fan? "Memorable" doesn't really seem to be a factor in who gets introduced to this game.
Well, Paige is memorable probably, but they didn't give her a name in the memorable moment.
"Cstone812;c-1412837" wrote: Yea exactly what everyone wants. Horrible characters from TLJ. Barf.
No one said everyone but no one said no one.
Basically, speak for yourself. I want two more Res characters for my two Res teams.
Also I'd like Snoke and Hux.
Hux? Seriously? The emo Ron Weasley that was the laughing stock of the last movie? Yea he was such a badass character.
Ok, your dislike is noted. Thanks.
Some kind of justification for Hux would be interesting - I just don't see anything there that would be desirable to have as a toon, but maybe I'm missing something. Is he already desirable in a joke-like way similar to how many would want Jar Jar? He's almost like they took Dark Helmet's character from Space Balls and actually put it in a SW movie. That's what I get from the character, but what are you finding appealing? Not trying to debate, but just genuinely intrigued to hear a different view.
I like Hux as well. I believe he is way more than what meets the eye. If you put TLJ in context with Rian‘s other works, and the subtle (or rather slapped in your face, which for whatever reason a lot people didn‘t get but took as presented) message of the film, it is clear what I am aiming at. Additionally, did you realize for example, that when when Snoke talks about
the benefits of keeping a rabid cur at his side. He is not talking about Hux? During the hunting he has proven to be -whether it makes much sense- be more of a tactician as well. Thinking things through. Instead of simply sending Tie squadrons in and loosing people, he tried to minimize losses. Even Snoke, after initially wanting to punish him for loosing the artillery dreadnought kind of praised him and approved his tactic. After Snoke‘s demise, he points his weapon at Kylo and decides not to shoot him. His „rival“... When Kylo wants to fight Luke, he is the one trying to hold back the rabid cur and is being force thrown into the wall. Hux is a good and reasonable commander, who seems to take risks when necessary and avoids them, when necessary. At least that‘s my impression of him, although he got included in comical scenes on purpose to make us believe he‘s a clown. Remember we have been told MANY times in the movie and the movie‘s messages, that not everything is as it seems and that there are deception, manipulation and diversions everywhere throughout the film!
So, looking at him from TFA and TLJ standpoint, I like Hux and want him as well. First and foremost as capital ship commander of a resurgent-class star destroyer. He makes most sense as a fleetcommander as he in fact IS in both movies and I ponder what kind of toon he‘d get. I can actually imagine a R2 like support toon with buffs for FO-teams. Inspirational speeches as cherry on top XD
I'm a darkside player here in GoH - I prefer their kits and how they play with debuffs and control, etc. I'd love to be on team FO / darkside, but ....
Sadly to me - the movie made the FO characters pretty lame. Snoke ended up being a pretty big joke and disappointment getting killed so fast and with no development at all. Kill him to further the story of Kylo and his journey - totally understand - but he was waxed so unceremoniously it was extremely anti-climactic. I didn't expect him to die in this movie at all, so death at any stage would have been a shock and big switch from expectations...this style of death though was just disappointing. You couldn't have found a player that wanted Snoke more than me prior to seeing the movie...but having him here would just remind me of how lame his character was in the story. Hux was made to be a fool by Poe's stall joke that was morphing in to a your mama joke at the end...so ... just have zero interest in either of these guys now. Note that I did like TLJ so I'm not a TLJ hater - I liked that it was different from prior SW and wasn't straight out of the can and formulaic..but these two characters really got the short end of the stick IMO.
EDIT: And they did the same to Captain Phasma....surprising as she actually has a full novel about her, but they just canned her with hardly any respect at all. Again I liked TLJ as a whole for it's overall story and different take, but they really did just toss nearly all the major FO characters in trash can in this movie. I think after watching the movie, the FO characters I have the most respect and desire for now are the Praetorian Guards. The rest of the movie just made me wonder how such a sad sack of villains could even have gotten to the point of being dominant over the galaxy. SW needs to start showing the villains at their peaks because the "off screen" competency and "on screen" incompetency they always portray is so drastic... LTJ in particular was pretty drastic depiction relative to the OT or prequels.
Well, you see that they switched the roles of Rebels and Empire in Resistance and First Order, do you? While the Empire had debuffs and Rebels had buffs, they made an 180° on that with Resistance and First Order, thus I strongly believe that Hux wouldn‘t be the debuff type.
While there is truth behind what you say in relation to the movie as is, I expect massive reveals in Ep IX, and here is why:
There are so many comments from Rian that make so much more sense if we do not take TLJ at face value. Snoke‘s most likely not dead. Throughout the film he shows how much more powerful of a force user he is than any other character we‘ve got to know so far and he keeps talking about his plans, manipulations and deceitfulness. It‘s like they slapped us in the face with his op-ness, then slapped us in the face with his truly anti-climatic 'death'.
Why he‘s not dead you‘d might ask: -deception -super powerful -very old (if he was to die so easily he wouldn’t have gotten that old) -introduction of force projection <— and this is the major point
Compare TFA Snoke with TLJ Snoke. They actually look different. TLJ Snoke looks younger, less shriveled and even has fewer scars/less deep scars. You know who else looked quite younger? Luke. Snoke might not even look like Snoke. Apparently you can alter your whole look when projecting. Maybe Snoke is actually of the same species as Yoda? Maybe Hux is actually Snoke and pretends to be the fool? (Okay given the last ones are pure speculation and quite a stretch. Yet, the differences in style are more than 'mistakes', they are way too apparent.) Also, similar to Luke, Snoke has never been touched, nor did he touch someone. Iirc, he even stopped slightly before touching Rey‘s chin. I‘m pretty sure a powerful being like him can fake to be halved by a lightsaber/lightsword as well. Maybe he orchestrated it so, that a new Sith is born (Kylo). Kylo as apprentice kills his master the same way Siths usually did since the rule of two. That would make Kylo a new Sith, while Rey with the books would be a new Jedi... who knows
The whole movie's plot was, nothing is as it seems. Luke, Snoke, Rey‘s parents (Kylo is right, but wrong as well with the dead Junkers), Leia's death. Everything has been turned, twisted in unexpected ways. Heck, even if it is the one that annoys me most, Holdo jumping with the Raddus into the Supremacy wasn‘t what was expected -or wanted as it leads to question why the rebels as desperate as they have been, not simply autopiloted ships into the death stars or super dreadnaughts like the Executor...
For what reason Snoke played Resistance and First Order alike, we can only speculate. Maybe he belongs to a third faction and wants to get rid of both? Maybe he is the Prime Jedi and tries to bring balance by getting rid of extremist dark and light factions? But it would be the de facto worst movie ever created, if proven otherwise (from plot to mere depiction of characters, which I doubt happened. I rather think we just haven‘t seen the full picture) I additionally do not believe that Phasma died. We thought she died in TFA, she didn‘t. We expect her to die a fiery death in TLJ, I assume she didn‘t. She might be disfigured and blind on one eye, but I doubt she is dead.
I personally think TLJ was the worst film in the Star Wars franchise even counting the Ewok Christmas specials! Yet, depending on Episode IX it could turn into a, not so straight forward film after film, new step into a new generation of Star Wars storytelling. Which would still make for a bad ep 8 but an awesome combination of ep8&9 that need to be regarded as belonging together as coherent story.
That‘s my 2cents. Well, we‘ll see after Ep IX whether Star Wars went down the drain or not...
This stuff could all happen - who knows - but my thought there is I liked TLJ because of the unexpected plot twists and unconventional take ... I fully expected it to be a formulaic film and it wasn't at all. If all that ends up just being a psych-out / head-fake and it gets right back to the formula and everyone is back I'm not sure what purpose TLJ served. My suspicion is that this was disjointed and threw water on many plot lines from TFA simply because it was directed by 2 different people and there was no true full trilogy plan in place. The comments from Rian about the story really don't mean much since he's not directing EP9 - it's back to JJ. Take in to account the originally planned director for EP9 is no longer with Disney and the issues they've had with the Solo movie having a direction and I think it's equally as likely that this was all hastily rushed by Disney to push out movies and cash in on their huge investment purchasing the franchise. Maybe it all wraps up great in EP9, but at this point TFA and TLJ seem to be independent movies that are parts of different stories (I actually enjoyed both of them for very different reasons). Rian clearly hit the reset button on TFA and in greater part the legacy of the franchise. It's a clean slate now - if that's the way JJ wants to take it to wrap up this trilogy.
I guess people like him cause hes over the top and over acting on purpose. Watch any Disney princess movie and the villian is always similar to Hux. He even rolls his R's for kittensake haha
"Ugnaught4Ever;c-1412553" wrote: It will be new movie stuff...Im guessing Rose, Paige, Hodo, Resistance Bomber and the Radus are coming and you'll need the new FO stuff (unmasked Kylo, Etc) to unlock some of it
All 3 of those characters are terrible and I hope they never make their way into the game. That's all we need are 3 more boring rebels
"Ugnaught4Ever;c-1412553" wrote: It will be new movie stuff...Im guessing Rose, Paige, Hodo, Resistance Bomber and the Radus are coming and you'll need the new FO stuff (unmasked Kylo, Etc) to unlock some of it
All 3 of those characters are terrible and I hope they never make their way into the game. That's all we need are 3 more boring rebels
That's just your opinion, you know. I personally liked each one of them. And secondly, they're Resistance, not Rebels.
