Years ago when crystal income was moved to GAC from arena, the reasoning was said to be because of shard chats/mafias blocking others out and ruling the payouts. The same is true for fleet, so why hasn't that been moved over? I've tried for years to get into the fleet chat and can't get in. I'm lucky to get into the top 50 without getting sniped out. And yes, I do have all meta ships maxed, I just can't afford to do multiple refreshes for a 50 crystal payout.
Shard mafias were not at all the reason arena crystals moved to GAC. They made the move for two important metrics to increase: time in game (GAC takes between 30 and 90 minutes depending on how sweaty you want to get, while it took maybe 1-5 battles for a total of 3-15 minutes to climb once a day in arena), and wider account investment (instead of just having to invest in the newest GL and their team, you now have to invest in ALL the GLs, their teams, and other S and A tier teams, their Omis, and their DCs).
Ships don't have mods nor Omis nor DCs and I pray they never will, and they're already required in GAC, so it's unlikely they're going to dissolve crystals from Fleet arena as they did character arena. Keeping crystals there still drives spenders to R9 fleet commanders and get the new shiny 'GL' ship on day one for 21k crystals.
"the reasoning was said to be because of shard chats/mafias blocking others out and ruling the payouts."
Where?
I heard rumours that the coordination between shard mates was maximizing crystal rewards for the player base - which was not intended. GAC did away with this and allowed them to lower the numbers of free crystals flowing to the player base. This has also flattened the crystal dispersement a little bit - which made it smell better.
It certainly felt like there was an intention to do the same with the fleet arena - but they need to keep some motivation in place for people to work in ships.
What was the reason CG gave?
Totally enjoying all the responders that are saying "Fleet mafia? There is no fleet mafia" identifying themselves as being in a fleet mafia. 😂
Ha! :)
I cAnt speak for every shard - but in my fleet chat anyone is welcomed in who replies or reaches out as long as they are respectful to other payouts. I know others who are in similar situations - this game does have the best community but surely there are a few bullies in some shards making the experience worse for some.
We've even made offers to people who just ignore us. Can't have it both ways.
Unfortunately, to get in, you are probably going to have to spend some crystals. If you make it difficult to beat you or if you climb quickly with refreshes, they might invite you in rather than having to compete against you. It took me years to finally have someone reach out to me. The major advantage is coordinated climbing so that you don't have to fight everyone to get to your PO. I would also recommend putting r9 on malgus, SA, and SET. A mostly worthless investment, but it will make your Levi fleet a bit more of a pain to beat.
“Shard mafias” are just the players who are regularly at the top cooperating with each other so they can maximize rewards and minimize time requirements and pain. Since the invention of changing payout times I haven’t heard of any shards that aren’t willing to cooperate with anyone who isn’t purposefully trying to mess with people.
anyone who is competitive and isn’t already talking to their shard mates should start by sending them a message :)
my guildmates can change but I have been playing with my shard mates for years and years-
I have been a part of our arena shard for years before it went to gac. As I said, I've been trying to get in fleet forever. Hasn't worked. Told it was too busy and there are too many in there already. I wish fleet was like my character arena shard used to be.
I'm currently ranked #18 in my Fleet Shard. And I hover anywhere between 8 - 20. I've been in this range for a while now?
In regards to the Levi information, that's good to know. Not sure if I have the relic mats yet for that. But bumping Malgus, SA and SET up to r8 until I can get POW and MQG to r9 for their AB to acquire droid brains sounds like a good plan.
The priority is SA to R9. With Levi matches, you have a coin flip on who goes first with their capital ship. Next to move is SA's ship. If you have R9, you go before anyone lower. If you and your opponent have R9, it is a second coin flip. If you lose the first, but win the second, you can still win a high percentage of the time. My typical move is basic with SA, bombs with bomber, then swarm attack with malgus. Sometimes swarm attack removes their bombers protection. Then you hit it with SA's special. You are really trying to kill bomber before the enemy can reinforce. If they bring in Palp shuttle, you can be largely screwed if you had lost the opening coin flip. You can try phatom/mk6 back to back, or just tie dorito to try to hit under protection to try to get ahead in ult race. If you lose both coin flips, it can still be doable, but a lot harder. That is where getting your other two starters to r9 can help. I have only bothered with SA to r9 just for the second coin flip.
This is ...not the best advice. Relic levels to win coin flips are not necessary and for most people will be a poor use of relic mats.
instead of following this path, just take your tank out of the starting lineup in favour of the Mk6, which uses 1-Health stacks instead of a standard health pool. Because that ship can never be at less than 100% health, the enemy Levi/Sith ships can never gain TM by hitting it. And because it's very low health, the enemy ships will preferentially target your interceptor -- the AI doesn't understand stacks. It assumes that 1-Health means that the interceptor is an enemy that they can finish off quickly.
With your tank gone and your interceptor in, the AI targets the interceptor and gains no TM. Your squad gains TM because you're hitting ships with a health pool. Bring in Dorito as your first reinforcement and don't use your AoE until you get your bonus turn (on your bonus turn you ignore protection). That gives you a massive TM boost for all the ships you're taking under 100% health.
And, of course, the enemy Fury will use its heal to bring all the enemy ships back up to 100% health so you can gain TM from them again.
You will always outrun the enemy even if you lose the opening coin flips. You will always take control over the enemy Levi. There are a very, very few random situations in which you get 2% dodges or other specific bad luck happening multiple times, and in those cases you might time out. You will never get your fleet killed, but you might time out. It hasn't happened to me since the very first time I played this strategy, but that's because I was thinking way too much between moves. That wasn't even bad luck. Just me being slow. Several times since then I've had it come down to less than 20 seconds, but never actually timed out except the once. So ... it can happen, but it should be very, very rare.
Do not waste mats on r9ing that fleet...just run the triple attacker Levi formation and you're good. Malgus is the only good r9 on that fleet lineup...I never bought into the r9 SASS because there is a much easier/cheaper counter to the original lineup.
Um... so like I've heard of these elusive Fleet Shard chats and I'm going to guess there's a Squad Shard chat; however, how does one go about even finding this chat area? I'm not in a chat for any of my shards. Is there a certain etiquette that we should know or something? Is this one of those unwritten rules?
Get the name and guild of a player in the #1, #2, or #3 spot. (Pick one that doesn't use special characters to make it easier to google them.)
Google this way:
playername partofguildname Site:swgoh.gg
The guild name is honestly optional, but might be helpful if someone has a common (like one of the game-defaults or a common modification of a real life name like, "gamerjohn") player name. If you do use part of a guild name, pick a part that uses no special characters, preferably at the beginning.
Through google, you should find the Swgoh.gg profile of the player, and if you look at that profile you get their ally code. Once you have their ally code, message them in game and ask if there even is a fleet shard chat -- and if there is, how to join.
I took your suggestion and reached out to #1, #3, and #4.
Thank you.
Spend more time playing fleet arena and you will be in the top.
They are more or less mafias. Either you are in or you are an enemy. Enemies get chained backwards and kept out of top 20. I'm sure every shard chat works a bit different, but that is the basic structure.
My issue is more with the I don't care about wasting crystals people. You get that one guy who will short hop for a revenge hit and then spend a refresh to just go back and forth five times. That is also the problem with the general "hit enemies before friends" rules. You are compelled to go back and forth with this idiots are spend more crystals on a quick refresh to double jump.
Why do I hear Anakin saying "Either you're with me, or you're my enemy" when you say this. Sorry, just an amused observation. It's all good. Good conversation going.
Let's work on balancing ships first before you start changing the ranking system.
I'd like to see a revamp in TW in terms of design, and move fleet arena crystals to TW shard mafia's are toxic.
