GA Algorithm - Worse Than Before??

"UdalCuain;c-1897446" wrote:
We have a 4.2m player, and a 3.8m player. There's 150k difference in character GP either side of me.

So they did make it worse. Awesome.

I normally don't complain about matchmaking, but every previous iteration of GA I've been really closely matched, so haven't really had cause to. Looking at all the other threads here and reddit something looks wrong.

"Nikoms565;d-207414" wrote:

68 15+speed mods to my 36.

I thought you were on a launch shard.

(I started in April 17 and I have exactly 68 myself)

"Nikoms565;c-1897522" wrote:
Seriously? Discord apps can check mods - how hard would it be to code them within certain ranges of each other?

Checking mods and matchmaking based on them are two entirely different things.

And if you give significant weight to the number of high speed mods as a determiner of how many effective units you can field, you've created an exploitable loophole in the system where units who don't care about speed mods- Baze, Droideka, Mission, Big Z, some Chewie builds, Resistance Trooper, Sith Trooper, Nest- become disproportionately beneficial in a way that the matchmaking algorithm would fail to account for.

This is not a failure of the matchmaking algorithm. You're just looking for an excuse to play the victim.

To me the problem lies in rewarding those who are unintelligent with their rosters and punishing those of us who were thoughtful and intelligent when upgrading certain teams or characters. Instead my very young and lean roster is being forced to compete against very older rosters that should be much much stronger but aren't due to their choices. Young f2p accounts are already being punished enough because we cannot get teams ready quickly enough to obtain new game changing characters the first time they become available, and with the early re-release of DR even more completely f2p players have missed out yet again on another game changing character which we've worked hard trying to prepare for. So now yet again, they punish my account which is 2.95M by making me match up with other accounts that are 3.8M but not as intelligently geared as mine. What i don't understand is how we try to justify these constant and repetitive decisions that penalize people for being smart. I've been very close to quitting and had I not already invested over a year and a half into my account, i'd be gone already. The obvious greed, laziness and disregard for their player base is matched only by their inability to release content that isn't constantly bugged or completely coded wrong. This is just another reason that they are consistently losing incoming revenue. If your product isn't worth spending money on, people won't spend. Props to CG and EA for doubling down on the greed and laziness while letting the game die.

"cannonfodder_iv;c-1897537" wrote:
I have a 400k GP disadvantage and have to place 8 squads instead of the usual six (I'm assuming based on the toon GP of my opponent).

i suggest you actually take a minute to verify that.

My first opponent has almost 600k (~50%) more character GP than me and is 2 divisions above me but I am deploying the same number of squads as I normally would.

The ironic part is that I am going to curb stomp him.

"Nikoms565;c-1898227" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1898216" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1898208" wrote:

"swgohfan29;c-1898017" wrote:


2 of us have both revans. 2 have none.

"TVF;c-1898111" wrote:
What's the problem exactly?

I'll type nice and slow, so you'll understand...
From the GAC match-up rework post from Crumb.... "they’ll be matched up against someone who looks more like them."

Now look at the bolded from the post you quoted. I'll wait. You'll see it eventually.

I wouldn't consider having the two characters that have been meta for the past 6+ months, while others have neither to be" looking like them. "

I disagree with your fundamental complaint that the characters should be the same or similar. But even we accept that as a flaw, how does it make it worse than it was before? The matchmaking process has never factored that in. The only change we have identified is that it previously counted your entire character GP, and now it only counts the GP of the top X number of toons. If you want to argue it's worse, it has to be based around that change. I'd argue that they need to expand that number slightly (I'd suggest diminishing returns as you go past X), but I still can't see how this is worse.

First off, the fact that you disagree with what CG has clearly stated the intent of the matchmaking GAC rework was to accomplish is irrelevant.

And no one has indentified anything. There are a few theories that don't seem consistent when applied across the larger number of cases.

To this point, CG has maintained radio silence as to what the issue is....or if they even think there is one.

If you can't see how 2 of 8 having both Revans while 2 others in the same group, competing for the same rewards, have neither, doesn't seem to be fair match-up, or worse than previous iterations of GA, I really can't help you.

It’s not really speculation. They say so right in Grand Arena, and it’s been pretty consistent from the examples we’ve seen.



CG never said they wanted only people with similar meta toons to face each other. You keep quoting that everywhere but are adding your own meaning to it.

I don't have Rey's Falcon unlocked. Why am I matched up with someone who does have it?

People will never, ever be happy. This is an extremely silly place, but not in a good way.

"No_Try;c-1898599" wrote:


There are certainly fair-er methods possible and they've already announced that was what they want to do. Trying to make it fair-er is not an effort in naught. And we are nowhere near there.

I'm not holding my breath waiting, that's for sure.