GAC history .gg

"GIJippo;c-2072847" wrote:
Well, looks like I just need to unregister from .gg. This disadvantage is unaccepable.

I wouldn't worry about people with no swgoh.gg accounts. If they don't have an account on there, I doubt they even use the site at all, let alone to scout GAC opponents. Most people without swgoh.gg are casual players.

"ZAP;c-2074243" wrote:

"rickertron;c-2074233" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2074229" wrote:

"rickertron;c-2074225" wrote:

"GIJippo;c-2074211" wrote:

"rickertron;c-2073595" wrote:

"GIJippo;c-2072894" wrote:

"ImaSmakya;c-2072887" wrote:

"GIJippo;c-2072847" wrote:
Well, looks like I just need to unregister from .gg. This disadvantage is unaccepable.

Haven't tried to acti\ually delete my account to see what is still accessible, but it does say that GAC history will not be deleted.

How can I be deleted but still show history? How can my data be there and also not be there? This is the biggest fuster cluck ever and I can't believe this isn't the biggest topic to GAC players right now. Literally, it's like one football team being allowed to watch game film and the other isn't.

Its actually not a cluster F, I choose not to have an account, there is no rule in GAC or SWGOH that says anyone needs an account. A cluster F would be if my GAC history was made available to those with an account.

You're not getting it. The freedom to have an account isn't at issue. It's the fact that by not choosing to have a GG account you get a marked advantage in GAC over someone who DOES have one. That's a cluster F because it creates an incentive to not have a GG account. How is that not a cluster F for GG and GAC competitive fairness? You really don't see the problem?

No I don't see the problem at all. You don't get it. You choose to put your roster and battle history on public display voluntarily in a third party app/website, that is not my problem, that is yours. GG accounts are not part of SWGOH and are not required to play the game. Your argument is that it is unfair that other players did not sign up for a voluntary GG account. Show me the rules, or requirement in GAC or SWGOH that says I or anyone needs to have an account with GG to play SWGOH.

Please note: I am not saying having access to one's personal battle history in GAC would not be helpful. I would love to have access to my battle history in GAC to view my own past battles to get more information and learn. But i am not willing to sign up for a GG account to do it. Having access to my own history within SWGOH would be a great feature.I would be opposed to any feature that allows others having access to my battle history, other than the battles they have had with me.

The issue is that CG/EA allowed .gg access to this data. One of the unfair things about it is that players that don’t have a .gg account can look up players GAC history that do have accounts, yet can’t be looked up themselves.

Not a problem if you don't have a GG acount or if you actually don't care if someone can see your history. So it comes down to knowing what you are signing up for or not.

My personal rule of thumb is to not sign up for third party applications like GG.

Many guilds require .gg accounts, so useful for many things, including preparations for TB and TW.

.gg was and still is awesome and very useful, it’s just when EA and .gg teamed up and allowed this data to be pulled and displayed, they implemented it in an unfair way.

Its pretty clear this a problem with GG and not CG. Got to the GG forum and report it as a bug.

"ZAP;c-2074255" wrote:

"Sewpot;c-2074251" wrote:
Exactly the the op said. Most competitive guilds require you have an account. Because we use those accounts in discord bots to help with TB and TW. I personally think posting our defence is the dumbest thing that’s happened. Absolutely no need for that information to be public. The devs are just lazy and don’t want to chase down all the people’s claims of cheaters. And they don’t want to fix any bugs on top of that.

I bet they’re still having to chase down reported cheaters as most cheaters won’t have a .gg account I suspect.

I would take that bet. given there is no evidence either way.

"Sewpot;c-2074251" wrote:
Exactly the the op said. Most competitive guilds require you have an account. Because we use those accounts in discord bots to help with TB and TW. I personally think posting our defence is the dumbest thing that’s happened. Absolutely no need for that information to be public. The devs are just lazy and don’t want to chase down all the people’s claims of cheaters. And they don’t want to fix any bugs on top of that.

Op did not say that.

"rickertron;c-2074317" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2074243" wrote:

"rickertron;c-2074233" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2074229" wrote:

"rickertron;c-2074225" wrote:

"GIJippo;c-2074211" wrote:

"rickertron;c-2073595" wrote:

"GIJippo;c-2072894" wrote:

"ImaSmakya;c-2072887" wrote:

"GIJippo;c-2072847" wrote:
Well, looks like I just need to unregister from .gg. This disadvantage is unaccepable.

Haven't tried to acti\ually delete my account to see what is still accessible, but it does say that GAC history will not be deleted.

How can I be deleted but still show history? How can my data be there and also not be there? This is the biggest fuster cluck ever and I can't believe this isn't the biggest topic to GAC players right now. Literally, it's like one football team being allowed to watch game film and the other isn't.

Its actually not a cluster F, I choose not to have an account, there is no rule in GAC or SWGOH that says anyone needs an account. A cluster F would be if my GAC history was made available to those with an account.

You're not getting it. The freedom to have an account isn't at issue. It's the fact that by not choosing to have a GG account you get a marked advantage in GAC over someone who DOES have one. That's a cluster F because it creates an incentive to not have a GG account. How is that not a cluster F for GG and GAC competitive fairness? You really don't see the problem?

No I don't see the problem at all. You don't get it. You choose to put your roster and battle history on public display voluntarily in a third party app/website, that is not my problem, that is yours. GG accounts are not part of SWGOH and are not required to play the game. Your argument is that it is unfair that other players did not sign up for a voluntary GG account. Show me the rules, or requirement in GAC or SWGOH that says I or anyone needs to have an account with GG to play SWGOH.

Please note: I am not saying having access to one's personal battle history in GAC would not be helpful. I would love to have access to my battle history in GAC to view my own past battles to get more information and learn. But i am not willing to sign up for a GG account to do it. Having access to my own history within SWGOH would be a great feature.I would be opposed to any feature that allows others having access to my battle history, other than the battles they have had with me.

The issue is that CG/EA allowed .gg access to this data. One of the unfair things about it is that players that don’t have a .gg account can look up players GAC history that do have accounts, yet can’t be looked up themselves.

Not a problem if you don't have a GG acount or if you actually don't care if someone can see your history. So it comes down to knowing what you are signing up for or not.

My personal rule of thumb is to not sign up for third party applications like GG.

Many guilds require .gg accounts, so useful for many things, including preparations for TB and TW.

.gg was and still is awesome and very useful, it’s just when EA and .gg teamed up and allowed this data to be pulled and displayed, they implemented it in an unfair way.

Its pretty clear this a problem with GG and not CG. Got to the GG forum and report it as a bug.

CG is an active participant in this, they could not allow .gg to this data, so no, it’s not clear that it’s strictly a .gg problem. Why on earth would I report it as a bug to .gg, when it’s not imo?

"rickertron;c-2074318" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2074255" wrote:

"Sewpot;c-2074251" wrote:
Exactly the the op said. Most competitive guilds require you have an account. Because we use those accounts in discord bots to help with TB and TW. I personally think posting our defence is the dumbest thing that’s happened. Absolutely no need for that information to be public. The devs are just lazy and don’t want to chase down all the people’s claims of cheaters. And they don’t want to fix any bugs on top of that.

I bet they’re still having to chase down reported cheaters as most cheaters won’t have a .gg account I suspect.

I would take that bet. given there is no evidence either way.

I did say most, but you’re probably right anyway, cheaters probably are that dumb.

"Sewpot;c-2074251" wrote:
Exactly the the op said. Most competitive guilds require you have an account. Because we use those accounts in discord bots to help with TB and TW. I personally think posting our defence is the dumbest thing that’s happened. Absolutely no need for that information to be public. The devs are just lazy and don’t want to chase down all the people’s claims of cheaters. And they don’t want to fix any bugs on top of that.

I guess personally, will avoid, "competitive guilds", if it requires me signing up for multiple third party applications. my current guild suits me fine, I enjoy the game at the level we are at and it is a very competitive experience without all the concerns expressed here.

Simple solution

Make swgoh.gg gac history info available ONLY to the player who has a swgoh.gg account.

if you are only allowed to see YOUR PERSONAL GAC history there is no problem.

The problem is anyone can access YOUR GAC history on swgoh.gg if you have an account. Just make that access portal within the actual segoh.gg account profile so the user has to log in to see it on their swgoh.gg account.

Devs gave away their app data so they may not have any power to negotiate how swgoh.gg is using the data devs provided to the 3rd party site.

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2074346" wrote:
Simple solution

Make swgoh.gg gac history info available ONLY to the player who has a swgoh.gg account.

if you are only allowed to see YOUR PERSONAL GAC history there is no problem.

The problem is anyone can access YOUR GAC history on swgoh.gg if you have an account. Just make that access portal within the actual segoh.gg account profile so the user has to log in to see it on their swgoh.gg account.

Devs gave away their app data so they may not have any power to negotiate how swgoh.gg is using the data devs provided to the 3rd party site.

Don't agree with that last statement at all. If CG didn't like what they were doing with the data, they simply deny access to the data.

"ImaSmakya;c-2074348" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2074346" wrote:
Simple solution

Make swgoh.gg gac history info available ONLY to the player who has a swgoh.gg account.

if you are only allowed to see YOUR PERSONAL GAC history there is no problem.

The problem is anyone can access YOUR GAC history on swgoh.gg if you have an account. Just make that access portal within the actual segoh.gg account profile so the user has to log in to see it on their swgoh.gg account.

Devs gave away their app data so they may not have any power to negotiate how swgoh.gg is using the data devs provided to the 3rd party site.

Don't agree with that last statement at all. If CG didn't like what they were doing with the data, they simply deny access to the data.

Typically data sharing between organizations is governed by a contract that states what data will be shared, how it can be used, and a length of time for the agreement to exist.

I imagine they agreed to share the data for X amount of time and gave swgoh.gg the rights to display that data on their site... but your correct its speculation on my part... I work doing business to business contracts and this kind of language is common that's why I said the last part...

Anyways the fix iS simple and Making GAC available to o ly the player participating in the GAC solves the problem with the current GAC scouting of other people's (who you havent fought) accounts.