GAC Mismatches

"slickdealer;c-2352005" wrote:
This is what happens after squish

Explain how it's related.

I’m just confused how this is happening… I’d imagine there are plenty of folks with similar GP and ranking. At my GP I stand absolutely zero chance against such high GPs….

And appreciate the input…. Just very frustrating.

"CiscoKid;c-2352013" wrote:
I’m just confused how this is happening… I’d imagine there are plenty of folks with similar GP and ranking. At my GP I stand absolutely zero chance against such high GPs….

And appreciate the input…. Just very frustrating.

Matches are based off of skill rating now, not GP. People for some reason can't seem to understand this. If you're a lower GP with less GLs facing off against higher level players, then congrats, that means you're good at GAC and are punching up.

The system is designed so that you should eventually have a 50/50 win/loss rate.

So, basically, I just need to start tanking… easy enough haha. I get the ranking matchups but still seems ludicrous to have such a high disparity in GP. Regardless of ranking… if you have 8.5M+ GP your roster is padded giving a huge advantage. There is no way someone with my GP has a chance.

Maybe preaching to the choir here but I can’t imagine the general postulation is happy with this. Feels very unrewarding and anti fun. And trust I’m competitive…

"CiscoKid;c-2352031" wrote:
So, basically, I just need to start tanking… easy enough haha. I get the ranking matchups but still seems ludicrous to have such a high disparity in GP. Regardless of ranking… if you have 8.5M+ GP your roster is padded giving a huge advantage. There is no way someone with my GP has a chance.

Maybe preaching to the choir here but I can’t imagine the general postulation is happy with this. Feels very unrewarding and anti fun. And trust I’m competitive…

Why do you think he’s at the same SK than you? Because he’s pretty bad, because he’s not really playing GAC, or because he’s tanking…. So of course you have a chance.

Bottom end of Kyber 1 is a shark tank. I have scored wins there with 7.3m and 4 GLs vs 5 or 6 GL opponents but it's more work than I want to put in at this point so I just take what I can get and don't sweat getting knocked back. GAC is just endless churn now anyway.

"CiscoKid;c-2352031" wrote:
So, basically, I just need to start tanking… easy enough haha. I get the ranking matchups but still seems ludicrous to have such a high disparity in GP. Regardless of ranking… if you have 8.5M+ GP your roster is padded giving a huge advantage. There is no way someone with my GP has a chance.

Maybe preaching to the choir here but I can’t imagine the general postulation is happy with this. Feels very unrewarding and anti fun. And trust I’m competitive…

Don’t sweat when you see opponent’s roster, just try to win every game and let matchmaking do its job. At worse, you’ll lose, go down the ladder and will face easier opponents, whatever roster they got.

"CCyrilS;c-2352042" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-2352005" wrote:
This is what happens after squish

Explain how it's related.

"slickdealer;c-2352028" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2352008" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-2352005" wrote:
This is what happens after squish

Explain how it's related.

Over time everyone gets separated based on skill rating. Think of a bell curve that is pulled at both ends.

The squish pushes everyone back towards the middle.

The squish is a number game to prevent inflation. It doesn't change who you'd have been matched with. There is no relation to OPs question and the squish.

What you call “inflation” is actually separation - spreading players out farther based on skill creating better matchups.

The squish brings people back to the middle undoing the separation.

Think of having everyone in the world at a 500 rating. After 4 weeks people separate from 250 to 750. Matchups are better.

The squish brings everyone back to 500.

This is an extreme example but illustrate what is happening.

If CG didn’t do the squish it would become impossible to move up brackets after a year or so. For example, if the NCAA basketball tourney was seeded based on lifetime program wins, my Cincinnati Bearcats,12th overall by this metric, would get a 3 spot despite underachieving for the past 5 years. On the other hand, Gonzaga, a perennial top 5 program and number 1 seed would be stuck at an 8 simply because they have so many seasons to catch up with the old guard. GAC would be the same with new up and coming accounts stuck in low brackets due to this incumbency bias.

The squish forces players to continue to progress their rosters. I’m K2 with 3 GL’s & 8.1M. Couldn’t compete at K1. That’s okay - I haven’t earned it. But if I up my game or spending, I could earn it and don’t face a ridiculous climb thanks to the point ranges being regularly squished.

"DarthBigdogVWW;c-2352137" wrote:
If CG didn’t do the squish it would become impossible to move up brackets after a year or so. For example, if the NCAA basketball tourney was seeded based on lifetime program wins, my Cincinnati Bearcats,12th overall by this metric, would get a 3 spot despite underachieving for the past 5 years. On the other hand, Gonzaga, a perennial top 5 program and number 1 seed would be stuck at an 8 simply because they have so many seasons to catch up with the old guard. GAC would be the same with new up and coming accounts stuck in low brackets due to this incumbency bias.

Not for nothing, but this is basically the best explanation of the squish that I've ever seen and will be stealing it pronto.