GAC Player Skill

"Starslayer;c-2383793" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383637" wrote:

"LynxVJ;c-2383613" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383611" wrote:

"I_JnK_I;c-2383609" wrote:
Why should it? Isnt the ability to adapt to situations a form of skill as well?

Yeah because skill rating in GAC is all about skill ?/s

Can you consistently win without skill? ?

Nobody can consistently win in GAC because it's designed for 50/50

Very few people would be more accurate. The system doesn’t prevent you to win 100% of your rounds when you’re at the very top.

You are right... So for like 100 players or so?
That's great! So 99,something % of the playerbase then. ?

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2383793" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383637" wrote:

"LynxVJ;c-2383613" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383611" wrote:

"I_JnK_I;c-2383609" wrote:
Why should it? Isnt the ability to adapt to situations a form of skill as well?

Yeah because skill rating in GAC is all about skill ?/s

Can you consistently win without skill? ?

Nobody can consistently win in GAC because it's designed for 50/50

Very few people would be more accurate. The system doesn’t prevent you to win 100% of your rounds when you’re at the very top.

You are right... So for like 100 players or so?

Well no, because the top 8 get ranked together. Half of those will win less than 50%

I think at the start it was only Haweyes and Kabuki that looked like that had the system beat to a degree.

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:
So to again answer your question, the wins or losses you have in GAC have nothing to do with real skill.

Well it does......(if we're using the word skill, which is strange). Basically, you will win or lose a lot (depending on your skill, power, knowledge, gp, usable gp, motivation etc) until you reach a place where you're about even. From that point on you'll roughly bob up and down until something changes. Due to squish and leagues you could say win 5/4 5/4 4/5 consistently and end up in the same place/places. Which isn't a 50/50 win rate.

~50%

You should practice 3v3 to get better

"harvestmouse;c-2383818" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2383793" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383637" wrote:

"LynxVJ;c-2383613" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383611" wrote:

"I_JnK_I;c-2383609" wrote:
Why should it? Isnt the ability to adapt to situations a form of skill as well?

Yeah because skill rating in GAC is all about skill ?/s

Can you consistently win without skill? ?

Nobody can consistently win in GAC because it's designed for 50/50

Very few people would be more accurate. The system doesn’t prevent you to win 100% of your rounds when you’re at the very top.

You are right... So for like 100 players or so?

Well no, because the top 8 get ranked together. Half of those will win less than 50%

I think at the start it was only Haweyes and Kabuki that looked like that had the system beat to a degree.

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:
So to again answer your question, the wins or losses you have in GAC have nothing to do with real skill.

Well it does......(if we're using the word skill, which is strange). Basically, you will win or lose a lot (depending on your skill, power, knowledge, gp, usable gp, motivation etc) until you reach a place where you're about even. From that point on you'll roughly bob up and down until something changes. Due to squish and leagues you could say win 5/4 5/4 4/5 consistently and end up in the same place/places. Which isn't a 50/50 win rate.

I think we all know how it works. I don't think there is need to split hairs... ~50% then lol

"Gifafi;c-2383828" wrote:
You should practice 3v3 to get better

I plan to practice every other month.

"LynxVJ;c-2383613" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383611" wrote:

"I_JnK_I;c-2383609" wrote:
Why should it? Isnt the ability to adapt to situations a form of skill as well?

Yeah because skill rating in GAC is all about skill ?/s

Can you consistently win without skill? ?

generally no, but with datacrons its easier to win without skill

"Lumiya;c-2383899" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2383818" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2383793" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383637" wrote:

"LynxVJ;c-2383613" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383611" wrote:

"I_JnK_I;c-2383609" wrote:
Why should it? Isnt the ability to adapt to situations a form of skill as well?

Yeah because skill rating in GAC is all about skill ?/s

Can you consistently win without skill? ?

Nobody can consistently win in GAC because it's designed for 50/50

Very few people would be more accurate. The system doesn’t prevent you to win 100% of your rounds when you’re at the very top.

You are right... So for like 100 players or so?

Well no, because the top 8 get ranked together. Half of those will win less than 50%

I think at the start it was only Haweyes and Kabuki that looked like that had the system beat to a degree.

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:
So to again answer your question, the wins or losses you have in GAC have nothing to do with real skill.

Well it does......(if we're using the word skill, which is strange). Basically, you will win or lose a lot (depending on your skill, power, knowledge, gp, usable gp, motivation etc) until you reach a place where you're about even. From that point on you'll roughly bob up and down until something changes. Due to squish and leagues you could say win 5/4 5/4 4/5 consistently and end up in the same place/places. Which isn't a 50/50 win rate.

I think we all know how it works. I don't think there is need to split hairs... ~50% then lol

I don't think we do all know how it works. It's quite complex and can be convoluted. I think there could be quite a lot of players a bit off of 50% win rate.

I've noticed that they go to special measure to remove people from 'Div 1' for the start of the season, for example. This is for what reason? Because there are too many in it to start? Or to try and limit how many will be in it at the finish?

I think I was trying to say 'you're not quite right' or 'you're simplifying it'........or something. Maybe I'm splitting hairs though......but, it wasn't my intention....

"harvestmouse;c-2384074" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383899" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2383818" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2383793" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383637" wrote:

"LynxVJ;c-2383613" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2383611" wrote:

"I_JnK_I;c-2383609" wrote:
Why should it? Isnt the ability to adapt to situations a form of skill as well?

Yeah because skill rating in GAC is all about skill ?/s

Can you consistently win without skill? ?

Nobody can consistently win in GAC because it's designed for 50/50

Very few people would be more accurate. The system doesn’t prevent you to win 100% of your rounds when you’re at the very top.

You are right... So for like 100 players or so?

Well no, because the top 8 get ranked together. Half of those will win less than 50%

I think at the start it was only Haweyes and Kabuki that looked like that had the system beat to a degree.

"Lumiya;c-2383800" wrote:
So to again answer your question, the wins or losses you have in GAC have nothing to do with real skill.

Well it does......(if we're using the word skill, which is strange). Basically, you will win or lose a lot (depending on your skill, power, knowledge, gp, usable gp, motivation etc) until you reach a place where you're about even. From that point on you'll roughly bob up and down until something changes. Due to squish and leagues you could say win 5/4 5/4 4/5 consistently and end up in the same place/places. Which isn't a 50/50 win rate.

I think we all know how it works. I don't think there is need to split hairs... ~50% then lol

I don't think we do all know how it works. It's quite complex and can be convoluted. I think there could be quite a lot of players a bit off of 50% win rate.

I've noticed that they go to special measure to remove people from 'Div 1' for the start of the season, for example. This is for what reason? Because there are too many in it to start? Or to try and limit how many will be in it at the finish?

I think I was trying to say 'you're not quite right' or 'you're simplifying it'........or something. Maybe I'm splitting hairs though......but, it wasn't my intention....

Sorry then, my bad. It came off as splitting hairs for the sake of minimizing what I said. I just tried to keep it simple without going into too much detail, so it won't end up being a novel. ?

Now the squish is a whole topic in and of itself. I think you know from past conversations how I think about the squish and why I think so. ?

The only positive thing I can say about the Squish is that it swirls things around a bit and prevents us from playing the same opponents all the time. If we had a 'true' and 'transparent' league system, we might be caught up playing the same players again and again. To my knowledge I haven't played the same player twice in the current system.

My whole guild is basically caught between K3 - A3 and it's pretty difficult to get out of this swirling whirlpool.