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AtuinTheGreat
Rising Adventurer
8 hours ago

GAC squish

New season, new squish. It's getting ridiculous. People are losing 100 and 200 points, some even more. 

Shut the squish mechanism off: someone who consistently end up with a positive W/L record, even 5/4, should climb, not drop by 50 points. As simple as that.

It's came to the point that content creators are having a special video dedicated to that: 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jl8cpC0MH_8&si=-dVgAZ8VVeQH2lT5

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iEXa1mZuLrg&si=2I7oRhDDQR2zAC7Z

 

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    AtuinTheGreat
    Rising Adventurer
    2 hours ago

    So we at least agree about the most crucial aspect - the lack of transparency.

    harvestmouse1 wrote:

    The idea of squish is to keep things in check. 

    I know that the general idea is. I just disagree. Their manual interference is what caused it to get out of control.

    harvestmouse1 wrote:

    Can't do that.  Especially with leagues and divisions.  The squish is needed.

    Yes they can, and they should. The entire system is like a living thing, and will stabilise eventually. Maybe set a max possible score that cannot be surpassed, but that all.

    harvestmouse1 wrote:

    Well if everybody is getting squished evenly, then they will climb (through people).

    Now, here's the thing - the definition of K1 is not "be among the top X%", but "have at least 3610 points". Therefore, even if everybody gets squished evenly, everybody will just drop from K1 evenly, and the amount of people in K1 will shrink, which is exactly what happens.

    At the end of the day, as I already said, the system must follow the oldest rule in the book: win to climb, lose to drop. If you win and get dropped regardless, (not compared to others. Objectively!) it means the system is broken and the least you can do is stop the thing that breaks it

  • AtuinTheGreat wrote:

    People are losing 100 and 200 points, some even more. 

    The idea of squish is to keep things in check.  Keep the divisions well populated and to stop players from getting too far ahead or too far behind.  Arguably, if a player is so far ahead of the division, they'll need a heavy squish.  The issue is, is that it doesn't seem to be uniform and there has been no communication on why the squish has got so heavy.  We just "Yah bro, it's WAI".  If it's WAI tell us why.  However, I very much doubt it's 'WAI' and more 'IWTTMTFIAWANSH'  (it will take too much to fix it and we are not sure how).

    AtuinTheGreat wrote:

    Shut the squish mechanism off

    Can't do that.  Especially with leagues and divisions.  The squish is needed.

    AtuinTheGreat wrote:

    someone who consistently end up with a positive W/L record, even 5/4, should climb

    Well if everybody is getting squished evenly, then they will climb (through people).  However, as the squish is way out of whack at the moment...I guess we're all falling.

    I don't know what they're doing.  They're aware of it and are doing nothing or explaining nothing.  The fact K3 is being squish 40-50 points-ish means that every Kyber division other than K4 is getting negatively squished.  K1 is getting squished extortionate amounts and dropping.  This isn't even remotely sustainable, so...what is happening and how is it WAI?

    If it is WAI, tell us why!  That really isn't too much to ask.

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