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nabokovfan87's avatar
5 years ago

GL Luke vs SLK - Absolutely Crazy

Well, I got my first taste of this in arena today. A non-ult, not even fully zeta'd GLLuke under JKL can absolutely dismiss the SLK matchup. I see reports of this with SEE vs. SLK as well where SLK can solo them. The luke battle is literally 20-30 seconds and there isn't anything he can do to even have a chance.

I'd like to see CG comment and review this in some way. We need confirmation that "this is what is expected" in terms of the investment into GLs and what happens when the next one comes out. As someone who spent over 6 months grinding one character and getting it done and then literally if GA or Arena or TW there's absolutely nothing anything on my roster can do with that. Nothing.

As mentioned, we need to see something from CG about this and about whether or not it is an issue in their eyes or not. I can suggest one option which would be to allow SLK to ignore taunt and have some kind of a chance at actually fighting in the battle. We can talk about how SLK weakens and kills off ~75% of dark side allies and how that needs to be looked at to give him some chance of strategic versatility.

Here is a video of the battle in question, it's about a 20-30 second battle and literally just hit auto and it's not even close.

https://youtu.be/rfAmVFIcCXo

Edit: it matters not what lead is used, here's another squad. I updated the title for clarity. https://youtu.be/M72zyI0Pra4

55 Replies

  • Someone label that noise as "music"?

    Goodbye world. we're doomed.


    "Nikoms565;c-2180234" wrote:
    "Miketo28;c-2180172" wrote:
    Did anyone else watch the video twice just for the music?


    If by that you meant "muted my browser 5 seconds in", then yes.


    "Miketo28;c-2180172" wrote:
    Did anyone else watch the video twice just for the music?


  • "RandomSithLord;c-2179267" wrote:
    And yet both of the old GLs are currently capable of beating the new ones (especially Rey vs JML lead and SLKR vs SEE). Did anyone expect the old GLs to hold reliably against the new ones?


    Yes.

    But what i really expected with the equal powered comment was that they would be able to hold up win a few and lose a few.

    So for this i see no issue. JmL beating kylo is fine if kylo beats SEE and rey beats JML
  • "InyakSolomon88;c-2180565" wrote:
    not another cry for a Kylo buff. what part of rock-paper-scissors-spock meta is so difficult to grasp?


    The problem is that people with only one want that one to be dominant in every aspect of the game. If they only have rock, they want rock to beat the other three in arena, rock to solo HSith, rock to hold for 16 battles in TW, rock to solo day 4 in TB and rock to bestow immortality.
  • SEE times out against rey on offense and rey smashes SEE when he is on defense.
    slkr solos SEE
    While SEE can beat JML all you have to do is put Ls bast as lead and spontaneously JML eats SEE teams alive.

    SEE is horrendously weak compared to the other 3.
    His core mechanic doesn't do anything. Who care that he can't be targeted when he does no damage. Its a more anoying to trigger mon motha zeta.

    he can't stun anyone. his deception is a WORSE daze effect. (tm gain block only hits jedi and rebels) and it doesn't block assists. he has NO OTHER DEBUFFS AT ALL. old emperor palp is a better sith lead then SEE.

    prot gain is nice but then you realize that the ENTIRE SITH FACTION RELYS ON HEALTH AND HEALTH RECOVERY.

    his kit screws over the best 2 sith tanks.
    ex linked targets can't crit.. thus malak can't be crit and won't fear targets and taunt
    sion can't revive.

    stealing protection is cool... but doesn't do anything in the long run since most characters rely more on health now days. If he stole mastery or other stats as well then it would be amazing.

    The devs said he had massive detrimental debuffs that would "make targets do things they didn't want to do"... thats a bold face lie.

    And yes I have SEE. hes garbage. worst gl of the 4 by a MASSIVE margin. its not even close. and before anyone says anything about team comps I have tried everything. all my sith are r7, most of my empire (thrawn ect) is r7. I tried wat (useless on defense if malak is there as malak gets tank tech).
  • I'm ok with a rock paper scissors... But SEE is no fun to even play with on offense. His animations are boring. He throws low damaging farts at people. He FEELS weak. He FEELS boring.

    If targets that had deception also had defense down baked into the skill then it would be slightly better. SEE knows their weakness cause he's behind the scenes exploiting them.

    Have his prot drain work against prot up, or drain more then just prot. Or do more then a small crit immune. the -30% dmg doesn't do anything. most LS attacker still hit harder then SEE even with the link on them.