Grand Arena Matchmaking

"SenorPompo;d-266572" wrote:
Honest question as to who benefits from this system?

Everyone that signs up benefits, so long as there are crystals tied to it.

I haven't yet heard someone come up with a suggestion for a different system that doesn't discourage roster growth.

I can't argue that the two scenarios that you listed are 'fun' - but surely you're meeting SOME players that are giving you close matches? Personally, I love it when my opponents sign up and don't play - or don't play hard. Makes my life easy, and yay, more crystals.

"herd_nerfer;c-2446107" wrote:

"SenorPompo;d-266572" wrote:
Honest question as to who benefits from this system?

Everyone that signs up benefits, so long as there are crystals tied to it.

I haven't yet heard someone come up with a suggestion for a different system that doesn't discourage roster growth.

I can't argue that the two scenarios that you listed are 'fun' - but surely you're meeting SOME players that are giving you close matches? Personally, I love it when my opponents sign up and don't play - or don't play hard. Makes my life easy, and yay, more crystals.

You’re correct that everyone benefits crystals wise. I’m talking purely fun factor. I do not enjoy winning because my opponent didn’t care to attack. There’s no enjoyment there. To directly answer your point, who is hurt with same crystal structure with old matchmaking system?

"WookieWookie;c-2446105" wrote:
With the new bundles getting players two GLs for under $100 while their GP range competition is still going for Padme and GAS? Now more than ever no thanks.

The GL’s would drastically increase their GP thus resulting in them not matching up with the rosters still going for Padme, no? Obviously there’s no perfect system and paying will inherently provide an unfair advantage by design, but I still feel it would offer more consistently engaging matches than the current - Did opponent attack? If so, you lose.

"SenorPompo;c-2446108" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2446107" wrote:

"SenorPompo;d-266572" wrote:
Honest question as to who benefits from this system?

Everyone that signs up benefits, so long as there are crystals tied to it.

I haven't yet heard someone come up with a suggestion for a different system that doesn't discourage roster growth.

I can't argue that the two scenarios that you listed are 'fun' - but surely you're meeting SOME players that are giving you close matches? Personally, I love it when my opponents sign up and don't play - or don't play hard. Makes my life easy, and yay, more crystals.

You’re correct that everyone benefits crystals wise. I’m talking purely fun factor. I do not enjoy winning because my opponent didn’t care to attack. There’s no enjoyment there. To directly answer your point, who is hurt with same crystal structure with old matchmaking system?

Purely from a fun factor, the GP-based MM was awful. Way worse than the matchups that happen occasionally now.

"SenorPompo;c-2446108" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2446107" wrote:

"SenorPompo;d-266572" wrote:
Honest question as to who benefits from this system?

Everyone that signs up benefits, so long as there are crystals tied to it.

I haven't yet heard someone come up with a suggestion for a different system that doesn't discourage roster growth.

I can't argue that the two scenarios that you listed are 'fun' - but surely you're meeting SOME players that are giving you close matches? Personally, I love it when my opponents sign up and don't play - or don't play hard. Makes my life easy, and yay, more crystals.

You’re correct that everyone benefits crystals wise. I’m talking purely fun factor. I do not enjoy winning because my opponent didn’t care to attack. There’s no enjoyment there. To directly answer your point, who is hurt with same crystal structure with old matchmaking system?

Everyone suffers. GP based matchmaking always leads to decreased progression as players don’t work up toons which are ‘bad’ at GAC. This means guilds have a harder time filling ops in TB, and have lower total GP for deploying. In TW lower guild GP means lower brackets and lower rewards, win or lose.

Further it stifles progression in GAC. GP bracketing will result in a ceiling for lower GO accounts and a floor for higher GP accounts. This will end in more crystals going to accounts who may not deserve it as much as they engage less than high activity smaller accounts.

Basically, GP based matchmaking and bracketing is bad for everyone.

"SenorPompo;c-2446113" wrote:

I wholeheartedly disagree. I also dispute the “occasionally” statement. Those matchups are the regular, and balanced and close matchups (within 500k GP) are few and far between.

As we learned when GP was how they did MM, GP is a terrible gauge of a close matchup.

"SenorPompo;c-2446116" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2446114" wrote:

"SenorPompo;c-2446113" wrote:

I wholeheartedly disagree. I also dispute the “occasionally” statement. Those matchups are the regular, and balanced and close matchups (within 500k GP) are few and far between.

As we learned when GP was how they did MM, GP is a terrible gauge of a close matchup.

Like I said above, it’s certainly far from perfect. But a system that comes down to “did your opponent with a massive GP advantage attack? If so, you lose” is an inferior system imo.

Did you experience the prior system to know how bad that was?

"SenorPompo;c-2446116" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2446114" wrote:

"SenorPompo;c-2446113" wrote:

I wholeheartedly disagree. I also dispute the “occasionally” statement. Those matchups are the regular, and balanced and close matchups (within 500k GP) are few and far between.

As we learned when GP was how they did MM, GP is a terrible gauge of a close matchup.

Like I said above, it’s certainly far from perfect. But a system that comes down to “did your opponent with a massive GP advantage attack? If so, you lose” is an inferior system imo.

Well, assuming you are 924921329, when you beat someone almost 4M GP higher than you and that person did attack... *shrug*

But either way, what we have now is far superior to the system that actively encouraged people to not grow their rosters and game the system.

GP based matchmaking was awful. Regressing back to that awful system would be terrible for the game.

"Didn't attack" and "3v3" often go together.