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- ccmooseNew Novice
"Mephisto_style;c-2330164" wrote:
"Vendi1983;c-2329985" wrote:
Or they tanked on purpose so they can spend a month wailing on rosters like the OP.
Yeah, I do think it works out mathematically in crystals to drop down a bit so you can take 1st place in a few subsequent events.
It does not, at least between A1 and K5. I did the math in a post once. You can check my history if you are curious. "Krrsantan;d-253054" wrote:
My power is 1.4M, and in my grand arena are a bunch of players with 4M power and one of them has a galactic legend. I mean come on, that’s ridiculous, why in the world am I being put in the same round as these guys?!
The matchmaking is still designed to reflect you as a player, and it does so pretty effectively. It's what you can do with your roster and mods as compared to what others can do with their rosters and mods. Believe it or not, there is a high -above-50% of players with nice rosters but horrible mods and dont know how to do GAC. The seemingly unfair matchmaking is still very much bringing down a lot of horrible players. Remember, by definition half of the population is below average.- I am sometimes surprised how I can win against people with 2,5 more GLs, who have a lot more Relic Teams in their roster. If people canot use their tools properly, maybe they deserve being paired in weaker groups. Until they have such an advantage in strength that it compensates their skill.
- ccmooseNew Novice
"Joebo720;c-2330190" wrote:
Bottom line is they went from a bad MM system to another bad MM system. While people point to the new skill rating at this point it is still a very arbitrary number and probably will be for a couple more months. Match ups can be bad, and will be bad for a bit. Let's just hope that it pans out like CG is hoping for, because we know they didn't test it, and it works out in a few months. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
How could the new one not pan out? What is the fail condition for you? - PersimiusSeasoned Traveler
"Joebo720;c-2330190" wrote:
Bottom line is they went from a bad MM system to another bad MM system. While people point to the new skill rating at this point it is still a very arbitrary number and probably will be for a couple more months. Match ups can be bad, and will be bad for a bit. Let's just hope that it pans out like CG is hoping for, because we know they didn't test it, and it works out in a few months. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
They went from a bad MM system to a better MM system. Sure, maybe right now it's not great, but if there's a massive GP gap, it's because the higher GP is either bad at GA, or rarely tries, which makes it a better matchup than the old method. - ScreeriderNew Scout
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2330066" wrote:
im sitting at 3272 rating and I will face anyone with the rating of 3310 to 3610.
I'm pretty sure at the moment and for the foreseeable future, you'll be matched up with people with the exact same SR as you: 3272. You might want to check your bracket. All 8 players in mine are the exact same SR. - To anyone defending the new matching making..
You have rocks in your head if you think it’s fair.. last GAC I won a few battles but mainly because the other team didn’t attack… I’ve moved up 1 division and the CLOSEST person in my round is 1mil GP higher than me.. I have no chance. Yeah I understand I’ll most likely go back a division soon but it makes this GAC a complete waste of time..
There still needs to be GP division on top of the new match making system. This was hugely overlooked, it’s not enjoyable going into a battle knowing you will lose because that completely is the opposite of what match making is… - ccmooseNew Novice
"Kripty;c-2330330" wrote:
To anyone defending the new matching making..
You have rocks in your head if you think it’s fair.. last GAC I won a few battles but mainly because the other team didn’t attack… I’ve moved up 1 division and the CLOSEST person in my round is 1mil GP higher than me.. I have no chance. Yeah I understand I’ll most likely go back a division soon but it makes this GAC a complete waste of time..
There still needs to be GP division on top of the new match making system. This was hugely overlooked, it’s not enjoyable going into a battle knowing you will lose because that completely is the opposite of what match making is…
You got free wins last round, by chance. Your rank went too high as a result. This week is correcting for that. This is how it works.
As things shake out, those free wins will be less common along with blowout losses. - winterwolvesNew ScoutMy k2 pool has 7 people with 1-3 GLs, some with, some without Executor. Then one person with 6 GLs.
Investigating their GAC history, they have only signed up for GAC one week in the last nine, and that one time they auto deployed and didn't attack at all. They must have attacked this time, as they have a win.
It is perfectly understandable that they will fall and end up fighting accounts like this pool. If they are playing now and any good they'll win and go back up, and I don't see them again. If they're part timers, maybe when I fight them they won't attack.
This system is way better than CG trying to figure out what makes a good roster. They are just letting us do it. They have shown with the adjustments to TW matchmaking that they are terrible at it. So us doing it is going to be better.
If your roster is good, and you know how to use it, you will do well. - frieste33New Spectator
"RTS;c-2330185" wrote:
"Ravens1113;c-2330180" wrote:
"RTS;c-2330177" wrote:
"Ravens1113;c-2330071" wrote:
"el_mago;c-2330062" wrote:
I feel like people are fundamentally misunderstanding how the skill rating works.
I feel like people are fundamentally misunderstanding how flawed CG’s skill system is. I get it’s still early but if people are being matched up with opponents millions of GP higher than them, something is wrong.
No, it's not.
This is literally how ladder systems work.
When it’s sorted properly. If you still have people matched up millions of GP apart then something still isn’t right. That’s like saying a new player in COD should be playing a lv 50 prestige. Or in Halo, a bronze shield playing a teal shield.
If people have intentionally lost some matches to guarantee better matchups for the next few rounds, they exploited the system to a degree.
Also in a ladder system it’s a gradual increase. Not to mention it’s a totally different ball game with a squad collection game compared to a FPS
1.) Losing intentionally to "get in an easier league" is a net loss, so if that's REALLY what they want to do....
2.) This is how it works - it's sorted properly by skill rank (squish not withstanding) if I have won enough matches to get to 3100, and a 8M account has lost enough to get down to 3100, then it's equal skill no?
Most players- the vast overwheliming majority - who are "better" than their GP allows for, are going to continue to get promoted up to a point where they run face first into a wall of people that can just brute force them down with a superior roster, that's just how it is. The trick is going to be to see how long you can prevent it from happening.
If it doesn't happen to me this month, it's going to happen next month 100%. I went from Aurodium 5 to Kyber 4, a few more wins and I will start to put myself into the range of people with well over 1M more GP than me.
This...so, so much this
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