Grand Arena Scoring Hide Suggestion

The reason to hide the score is because it is more fair. But other than that I don’t have any good reasons.

"Kyno;c-1741152" wrote:

"Grizz331;c-1741131" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1741115" wrote:

"Eddiemundie;c-1741080" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1740499" wrote:

"Eddiemundie;c-1740462" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1739755" wrote:
That's how "playing chicken" works.

I have not had anyone wait that long yet.

Oh my opponent is only attacking me now. Right after i cleared the board about 10min ago. Of course i was waiting too, but it’s 1230am now.

I said it before and i’ll say it again, just hide the fricking points. It’s not strategy if your opponent is forever disadvantaged by timezone. And if GA cycles don’t rotate through different timezones, it is plain unfair to those who live where GA ends at 2-6am.

Oh and maybe your opponents didnt wait that long because u know, perhaps GA ends at 5am for them so they don’t have much of a choice? Nice try.

There is always a choice. Yes it is a strategy, just because one person may not be able to utilize it due to external factors doesnt change that fact.

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1740476" wrote:
How is waiting until the end a strategy? Shouldn't you be trying to clear the opponent's side and get as many points as possible doing so? What the other guy is (not) doing has no bearing on trying to do your best.

I will generally wait, but slowly clear out the more difficult teams. Saving the "easier" ones in case I dont clear on the first try to maybe make up points. But if you want to wait and see how your opponent does, that can be helpful. There is much less stress if they hit one or multiple 2s or possibly a 3.

First focus should always be a clean wins, but if I need the extra point or 2, i will go in with a man down when i can. I wouldnt normally do that if i didnt know if would give me a win. The risk vs reward is not great enough to do that for "no reason".

So having a strategy based on your opponent being ALWAYS forced to attack early because of his timezone is a strategy? Well done. I commend your deep thinking and understanding. Why not develop a strategy based on not knowing how many points your opponent scored? You clearly just want an advantage that some others will PERMANENTLY not have because GA does not rotate through time zones. Why not try setting your arena payout to 3am everyday? Then u can do fleet at 4am too! Can’t snipe? Too bad, poor strategy.

no one knows when their opponent is going to attack... again, that how chicken works, you dont know what the other person is going to do.

I base my attacks on what i can and want to do, if i see a score and i can beat it I will try, but if i dont see a score , i do what i can to put up the best numbers.

my strategy is more based on what i see in there roster. but i'm not going to put down someone elses strategy if thats what they want to to do.

So what’s your point?

There is no reason to hide the score. some people like to use this as a strategy, why take it away from them. win some you lose some, if you are losing by a few point change your strategy. (i dont mean you personally)

But some will not be able to employ this strategy because of timezone. Sure, we can keep this here, but in that case then GA should be rotated through timezones to make it fair. That way nobody can chicken all the time.

"Eddiemundie;c-1741242" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1741152" wrote:

"Grizz331;c-1741131" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1741115" wrote:

"Eddiemundie;c-1741080" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1740499" wrote:

"Eddiemundie;c-1740462" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1739755" wrote:
That's how "playing chicken" works.

I have not had anyone wait that long yet.

Oh my opponent is only attacking me now. Right after i cleared the board about 10min ago. Of course i was waiting too, but it’s 1230am now.

I said it before and i’ll say it again, just hide the fricking points. It’s not strategy if your opponent is forever disadvantaged by timezone. And if GA cycles don’t rotate through different timezones, it is plain unfair to those who live where GA ends at 2-6am.

Oh and maybe your opponents didnt wait that long because u know, perhaps GA ends at 5am for them so they don’t have much of a choice? Nice try.

There is always a choice. Yes it is a strategy, just because one person may not be able to utilize it due to external factors doesnt change that fact.

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1740476" wrote:
How is waiting until the end a strategy? Shouldn't you be trying to clear the opponent's side and get as many points as possible doing so? What the other guy is (not) doing has no bearing on trying to do your best.

I will generally wait, but slowly clear out the more difficult teams. Saving the "easier" ones in case I dont clear on the first try to maybe make up points. But if you want to wait and see how your opponent does, that can be helpful. There is much less stress if they hit one or multiple 2s or possibly a 3.

First focus should always be a clean wins, but if I need the extra point or 2, i will go in with a man down when i can. I wouldnt normally do that if i didnt know if would give me a win. The risk vs reward is not great enough to do that for "no reason".

So having a strategy based on your opponent being ALWAYS forced to attack early because of his timezone is a strategy? Well done. I commend your deep thinking and understanding. Why not develop a strategy based on not knowing how many points your opponent scored? You clearly just want an advantage that some others will PERMANENTLY not have because GA does not rotate through time zones. Why not try setting your arena payout to 3am everyday? Then u can do fleet at 4am too! Can’t snipe? Too bad, poor strategy.

no one knows when their opponent is going to attack... again, that how chicken works, you dont know what the other person is going to do.

I base my attacks on what i can and want to do, if i see a score and i can beat it I will try, but if i dont see a score , i do what i can to put up the best numbers.

my strategy is more based on what i see in there roster. but i'm not going to put down someone elses strategy if thats what they want to to do.

So what’s your point?

There is no reason to hide the score. some people like to use this as a strategy, why take it away from them. win some you lose some, if you are losing by a few point change your strategy. (i dont mean you personally)

But some will not be able to employ this strategy because of timezone. Sure, we can keep this here, but in that case then GA should be rotated through timezones to make it fair. That way nobody can chicken all the time.

I agree with this. The phases should rotate on some sort of shifting schedule.

Go for max banners every time. Problem solved. No hiding scores.

"EventineElessedil;c-1741566" wrote:
Go for max banners every time. Problem solved. No hiding scores.

So you clear the board right out of the gate every time with a single toon?

"Kyno;c-1741115" wrote:

no one knows when their opponent is going to attack... again, that how chicken works, you dont know what the other person is going to do.

I base my attacks on what i can and want to do, if i see a score and i can beat it I will try, but if i dont see a score , i do what i can to put up the best numbers.

my strategy is more based on what i see in there roster. but i'm not going to put down someone elses strategy if thats what they want to to do.

Chicken presumes equal opportunity. Grand Arena rounds (at least so far) end at 5 pm for me. Generally speaking, from 4 to 5 pm, if I need to do battles I can fairly easily. For someone like the OP, that's not a reasonable option. So if we are matched up, we're not playing chicken, because it's not equal opportunity.

"Indominable_J;c-1741609" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1741115" wrote:

no one knows when their opponent is going to attack... again, that how chicken works, you dont know what the other person is going to do.

I base my attacks on what i can and want to do, if i see a score and i can beat it I will try, but if i dont see a score , i do what i can to put up the best numbers.

my strategy is more based on what i see in there roster. but i'm not going to put down someone elses strategy if thats what they want to to do.

Chicken presumes equal opportunity. Grand Arena rounds (at least so far) end at 5 pm for me. Generally speaking, from 4 to 5 pm, if I need to do battles I can fairly easily. For someone like the OP, that's not a reasonable option. So if we are matched up, we're not playing chicken, because it's not equal opportunity.

Everyone has the same opportunity, but may not make the personal choice to take advantage of that startegy. Some will have work some will want to sleep, and others will just choose to have lives and not be glued to their phone on someone else's prescribed schedule.

The strategy seems very similar to someone who pays to have access to toons right away, not everyone agrees with it, not every is capable to do it, but it still exists and is a valid strategy.

It's not an overwhelming strategy that will always lead to a win. If you place teams that cant be beat 4v5 or less than it's all about game play. Over coming strategy with strategy should be the goal, not making changes to not allow someone to take advantages of a weakness in a roster.

Just want to add that, unless a player is losing every match by less than 10 banners, this change wouldnt mean anything. Winning with a team of 4 nets you 1(or 2) more banner(s), but could be costing the player as much with less change of a full health/protection banners.

I know people are winning/losing by this close a margin, but not roughly 1/3 of the players are.

I guess you're right that it's a choice not to get up at 2am to play the chicken game while your opponent makes the same decision at 7pm, but that hardly seems fair.

There's a reason they finally let people change their payout times.

"Kyno;c-1741666" wrote:

Everyone has the same opportunity, but may not make the personal choice to take advantage of that startegy. Some will have work some will want to sleep, and others will just choose to have lives and not be glued to their phone on someone else's prescribed schedule.

The strategy seems very similar to someone who pays to have access to toons right away, not everyone agrees with it, not every is capable to do it, but it still exists and is a valid strategy.

It's not an overwhelming strategy that will always lead to a win. If you place teams that cant be beat 4v5 or less than it's all about game play. Over coming strategy with strategy should be the goal, not making changes to not allow someone to take advantages of a weakness in a roster.

Claiming everyone has the same opportunity because anyone can wake up in the middle of the night is ridiculous. Let's make all the phases of GA last one hour each -- everyone has the exact same opportunity to participate! -- just because you don't live in what becomes the preferred time zone is irrelevant, right? There would actually be the "same" opportunity if the GA schedule advanced an hour each time, because ultimately everyone will have x number of GAs that occur when they sleep. Barring something like that, it's not an equal opportunity.