I would just like to state for the record that the dispel in the zeta ability is inconsistent with the gameplay mechanics of other characters like bastila Shan, shaak ti and others. This greatly diminishes the value of the Hera zeta. I understand that those characters cleanse first, then call to assist (on abilities that don't even require a zeta mind you) but Hera's ability somehow works in the opposite direction. I recommend we just bring her in line with the other characters in the game who have a dispel / call to assist. Let's compare these three dispel / call to assist mechanics: Shaak Ti's omega ability Assault Team, dispels ALL debuffs on ALL allies! Then it calls all clones to assist, also buffs them with crit chance / speed & tenacity up / crit immunity depending on their role for 3 turns! Buffs for everyone! Woohoo! (3 turn cooldown)Bastila Shan's omega ability Rally, dispels ALL debuffs on one ally and calls them to assist (no faction requirements whatsoever!) giving offense up, defense up, speed up, accuracy up, and critical chance up for 3 turns. Holy buffs Batman! (4 turn cooldown)Hera's ZETA ability Play to Strengths, gives a single Phoenix member 50% turn meter gain an extra 25% potency buff on this one attack with a one turn cooldown reduction. Are you dazed or stunned? Sorry... you don't get any of those things. Nothing. You stand there and you Play to Your Weaknesses. Not a phoenix member? No worries, you still do more damage and get 25% potency on this one attack. You're welcome. (3 turn cooldown)Hopefully we can do our girl some justice. I know Kanan would appreciate :) thanks

hera zeta recommendation: don't

"darth_quont0r;c-2201291" wrote:Hera is supposed to be a starting level character, she rips for what she is and hold early game value once you start leveling and after you get thrawne they get shelved, they are meant to be a helpful stepping stone as you can get thrawne palps and part way to gmy using Phoenix. She also has the death immunity ability and two tanks, at low level without a good team they are an insane challenge you have to climb over too much boost would break early game Not that it really matters, but Phoenix stopped being an early game squad a while ago. The prequel era has taken over. I don't think you need to worry about phoenix breaking anything.

"darth_quont0r;c-2201944" wrote:She is not over powered, but when you are first starting the Phoenix squad is such a pain, it takes a long time to get to a point you can actually beat them, hera is a stepping stone, the Phoenix team basically folds up once you start getting better teams and that's their purpose, they should be less effective then other teams because they are as effective as they need to be in early game, if she had to much more it would break a balance in the early game Very few people in the early game are going to make Hera their first zeta :-) . With the recent changes to shard farming + the journey guide, the first zeta of many players could very well be JKR, Padme, Vader, or DR (all very accessible early teams now). I sure hope you don't think her zeta is "overpowered" compared to those early game zetas. It's a luxury zeta that's been around for a while. By nerfing it, CG has done nothing to unbalance the early game, only lessen the viability of a near 4 year old character.

Was thinking about relic the phoenix for the assault battle because a) I have them all zetad b) they are pilots c) I dont have sisters.Until the recent one I noticed I can no longer dispell dazed/stunned ppl by hera.Oh well.

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GifafiTho
4 years ago
hera zeta recommendation: don't
BTTripleZero
4 years ago
"darth_quont0r;c-2201291" wrote:
Hera is supposed to be a starting level character, she rips for what she is and hold early game value once you start leveling and after you get thrawne they get shelved, they are meant to be a helpful stepping stone as you can get thrawne palps and part way to gmy using Phoenix. She also has the death immunity ability and two tanks, at low level without a good team they are an insane challenge you have to climb over too much boost would break early game

Not that it really matters, but Phoenix stopped being an early game squad a while ago. The prequel era has taken over. I don't think you need to worry about phoenix breaking anything.
62p858x4py0p
4 years ago
"darth_quont0r;c-2201944" wrote:
She is not over powered, but when you are first starting the Phoenix squad is such a pain, it takes a long time to get to a point you can actually beat them, hera is a stepping stone, the Phoenix team basically folds up once you start getting better teams and that's their purpose, they should be less effective then other teams because they are as effective as they need to be in early game, if she had to much more it would break a balance in the early game

Very few people in the early game are going to make Hera their first zeta :-) . With the recent changes to shard farming + the journey guide, the first zeta of many players could very well be JKR, Padme, Vader, or DR (all very accessible early teams now). I sure hope you don't think her zeta is "overpowered" compared to those early game zetas. It's a luxury zeta that's been around for a while. By nerfing it, CG has done nothing to unbalance the early game, only lessen the viability of a near 4 year old character.
templarphoenix
New Spectator
4 years ago
Was thinking about relic the phoenix for the assault battle because a) I have them all zetad b) they are pilots c) I dont have sisters.
Until the recent one I noticed I can no longer dispell dazed/stunned ppl by hera.
Oh well.
Donisshane
4 years ago
We must RISE UP
tvsfrink
4 years ago
Or must we?
SylvanaKitsune
4 years ago
Hera is supposed to be a starting level character, she rips for what she is and hold early game value once you start leveling and after you get thrawne they get shelved, they are meant to be a helpful stepping stone as you can get thrawne palps and part way to gmy using Phoenix. She also has the death immunity ability and two tanks, at low level without a good team they are an insane challenge you have to climb over too much boost would break early game
SlowJack
4 years ago
The issue is that her Zeta used to work like those other abilities until the update on 9/9/20. That means its been functional for years, and only recently now has no use. I think it needs to be set back to the way it was. I used to be able to run the secrets and shadows assault battle challenge tier 1 with phoenix without issue, and now my whole team just ends up stunned/shocked/dazed and i have no way to get kanan moving.

Because Kanan's self heal is based off of having debuffs landed, the way Phoenix worked was you have to let kanan get debuffed, then use Hera to cleanse him, allowing him to do his team cleanse which typically jump starts the phoenix tm gain and ability to push forward. Hera getting a dispel with her zeta that only works on phoenix allies is now useless because you cannot even target those allies for the cooldown reduction or anything.
Donisshane
4 years ago
"Kleever;c-2201555" wrote:
The issue is that her Zeta used to work like those other abilities until the update on 9/9/20. That means its been functional for years, and only recently now has no use. I think it needs to be set back to the way it was. I used to be able to run the secrets and shadows assault battle challenge tier 1 with phoenix without issue, and now my whole team just ends up stunned/shocked/dazed and i have no way to get kanan moving.

Because Kanan's self heal is based off of having debuffs landed, the way Phoenix worked was you have to let kanan get debuffed, then use Hera to cleanse him, allowing him to do his team cleanse which typically jump starts the phoenix tm gain and ability to push forward. Hera getting a dispel with her zeta that only works on phoenix allies is now useless because you cannot even target those allies for the cooldown reduction or anything.

I agree. This really removes any prior viability I had with them in that event. It's a shame she is put into a box like this for a zeta that wasn't over powered to begin with.
Donisshane
4 years ago
"darth_quont0r;c-2201291" wrote:
Hera is supposed to be a starting level character, she rips for what she is and hold early game value once you start leveling and after you get thrawne they get shelved, they are meant to be a helpful stepping stone as you can get thrawne palps and part way to gmy using Phoenix. She also has the death immunity ability and two tanks, at low level without a good team they are an insane challenge you have to climb over too much boost would break early game

I'm going to agree with Bulldog on this one. If she is only meant to be an early game character, they should cap her gear level at 10 or whatever. Her zeta worked as the others I mentioned until recently when they nerfed it. I never once heard anyone in the years she's been available be called overpowered because of it, did you?