Heroic tier teams phase 1 advice please

"Mol_Sign;445617" wrote:
1M+ damage with Teebo (l), Rex, QGJ, GS, Jawa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cuyjl7FsFo

"Telaan;446449" wrote:

"Whosdaman;446441" wrote:
I can assure you it's from T7 raid. I can post screenshots from our raid right now if necessary. But you can tell from the health bars of the Gamo guard and brute that it is T7.

I'm sure it probably is. But, when you're posting something on the forums as "guide" of sorts, it helps to be able to have a conversation about it without becoming snarky or defensive, even to critics. The best way to set the record straight is be conversational rather than confrontational.

http://i.imgur.com/hlgqU5Y.jpg

Here is all the proof you need to see that it's T7 raid. Just compare the damage at the end to the damage total in the leaderboard. You'll see it's an exact match.

"Telaan;446449" wrote:

I'm sure it probably is. But, when you're posting something on the forums as "guide" of sorts, it helps to be able to have a conversation about it without becoming snarky or defensive, even to critics. The best way to set the record straight is be conversational rather than confrontational.

Not posting as a guide. I don't pretend to like some people, e.g., guys who ignorantly repeat that teebo is ineffective in T7. Do you know who I'm talking about, Telaan?

Assuming the other person is a fraud is not a great way to be conversational.

That's why you need a good plan and structure for doing T7. To be honest, the raid is crazy easy. We grossly overestimated how hard it was going to be

"Naecabon;446465" wrote:

"Mol_Sign;446460" wrote:

"Telaan;446449" wrote:

I'm sure it probably is. But, when you're posting something on the forums as "guide" of sorts, it helps to be able to have a conversation about it without becoming snarky or defensive, even to critics. The best way to set the record straight is be conversational rather than confrontational.

Not posting as a guide. I don't pretend to like some people, e.g., guys who ignorantly repeat that teebo is ineffective in T7. Do you know who I'm talking about, Telaan?

Assuming the other person is a fraud is not a great way to be conversational.

Ineffective, maybe not, as your video has shown. But are we correct to assume you've used the Scanner on his GX, something 99.9% of the playerbase never bothered to do? And can we also agree that he's nowhere near as useful on T7 as he is on T6 and lower? Generally, we say "don't expect Teebo results in T7" because anyone coming high off a 2M+ attempt on T6 is going to be in for a rude awakening. They certainly don't have GX Scannered Teebos ready to go.

And I've watched the video multiple times and the number of times your Rex saves the day and QGJ leads in to 3 or 4 turn meter downs in a row to buy Teebo time to stick one is insane. You can't deny that attempt was a godly diamond of an attempt. It's possible, yes, but that video took 15 minutes and you'll only get an attempt even close to that probably 10-15% of the time at best.

If anything, we would rather collaborate with our findings with your guilds as well. 90%+ of the information on the forums and the subreddit is misinformation and bull poop. We have been testing a lot of different strategies and options in terms of the raids from T5 on. Literally, we just did our first T7 raid on Saturday and we were way over prepared lol

Edit: at least until Guild Wars are introduced ;-)

"Mol_Sign;446460" wrote:

"Telaan;446449" wrote:

I'm sure it probably is. But, when you're posting something on the forums as "guide" of sorts, it helps to be able to have a conversation about it without becoming snarky or defensive, even to critics. The best way to set the record straight is be conversational rather than confrontational.

Not posting as a guide. I don't pretend to like some people, e.g., guys who ignorantly repeat that teebo is ineffective in T7. Do you know who I'm talking about, Telaan?

Assuming the other person is a fraud is not a great way to be conversational.

Oh I remember precisely what you're talking about. I'm still not impressed with Teebo or your video, outside of your patience to stay I one phase for so long. If you enjoy spending the entire raid in one phase power to you. Like Nae I'll stick to quick DPS that easily hits 700k in one phase that still give me time to participate in the rest raid and surpass what I wouldn't have been able to achieve with Teebo.

"Naecabon;446465" wrote:

Ineffective, maybe not, as your video has shown. But are we correct to assume you've used the Scanner on his GX, something 99.9% of the playerbase never bothered to do? And can we also agree that he's nowhere near as useful on T7 as he is on T6 and lower? Generally, we say "don't expect Teebo results in T7" because anyone coming high off a 2M+ attempt on T6 is going to be in for a rude awakening. They certainly don't have GX Scannered Teebos ready to go.

And I've watched the video multiple times and the number of times your Rex saves the day and QGJ leads in to 3 or 4 turn meter downs in a row to buy Teebo time to stick one is insane. You can't deny that attempt was a godly diamond of an attempt. It's possible, yes, but that video took 15 minutes and you'll only get an attempt even close to that probably 10-15% of the time at best.

Of course, I had to use the scanner. That's the whole point of taking Teebo to g10. This is not a one-off. I have another video, before I tried for this even larger damage. I've been averaging 1M with a minimum of 900K+.

Dude I have no idea why you're so defensive and have to make up stuff like it was a "godly attempt."

"Telaan;446476" wrote:

"Mol_Sign;446460" wrote:

"Telaan;446449" wrote:

I'm sure it probably is. But, when you're posting something on the forums as "guide" of sorts, it helps to be able to have a conversation about it without becoming snarky or defensive, even to critics. The best way to set the record straight is be conversational rather than confrontational.

Not posting as a guide. I don't pretend to like some people, e.g., guys who ignorantly repeat that teebo is ineffective in T7. Do you know who I'm talking about, Telaan?

Assuming the other person is a fraud is not a great way to be conversational.

Oh I remember precisely what you're talking about. I'm still not impressed with Teebo or your video, outside of your patience to stay I one phase for so long. If you enjoy spending the entire raid in one phase power to you. Like Nae I'll stick to quick DPS that easily hits 700k in one phase that still give me time to participate in the rest raid and surpass what I wouldn't have been able to achieve with Teebo.

If we did that, less than half of our guild wouldn't even have the chance to participate. We much rather see 45+ members get a chance to attack and get the rewards than for 5-10 players just crush the entire raid.

It mainly goes as said, "to each their own"

sheesh; quell the drama gentlemen; both teams are good.

It's nice to see that there are different options and that some higher gear and omega abilities are really cool.

TI guys, you can't rightfully accuse Mol Sign of being defensive or snarky when you questioned whether this was a T7 raid or not...and so many ways to obviously tell it was T7 - aren't you the TI experts who should be able to tell it's a T7 by dmg when you see it?!

And then the cop out of "well our raids are so fast that I don't want a million dmg" (which you would still get credit for as overkill by the way) instead of acknowledging the coolness of the accomplishment once proven to be T7...c'mon give Mol Sign some credit - nice job, well done.

And a "maybe we were wrong about Teebo as we did not have him fully geared and omega'd" thrown in there for good measure.

I have no beef with TI whatsoever in general, but I am willing to acknowledge good stuff when I see it.

PS Telaan I don't know how much more dmg you want to do in excess of 1 million, there's only 10 million to go around for 50 hungry guild members :)

"Whosdaman;446481" wrote:

If we did that, less than half of our guild wouldn't even have the chance to participate. We much rather see 45+ members get a chance to attack and get the rewards than for 5-10 players just crush the entire raid.

Exactly. We're in it for the entire guild not just for ourselves.

EDIT: Almost makes me regret sharing this video at all. So much immaturity over a game.

"Whosdaman;446481" wrote:

"Telaan;446476" wrote:

"Mol_Sign;446460" wrote:

"Telaan;446449" wrote:

I'm sure it probably is. But, when you're posting something on the forums as "guide" of sorts, it helps to be able to have a conversation about it without becoming snarky or defensive, even to critics. The best way to set the record straight is be conversational rather than confrontational.

Not posting as a guide. I don't pretend to like some people, e.g., guys who ignorantly repeat that teebo is ineffective in T7. Do you know who I'm talking about, Telaan?

Assuming the other person is a fraud is not a great way to be conversational.

Oh I remember precisely what you're talking about. I'm still not impressed with Teebo or your video, outside of your patience to stay I one phase for so long. If you enjoy spending the entire raid in one phase power to you. Like Nae I'll stick to quick DPS that easily hits 700k in one phase that still give me time to participate in the rest raid and surpass what I wouldn't have been able to achieve with Teebo.

If we did that, less than half of our guild wouldn't even have the chance to participate. We much rather see 45+ members get a chance to attack and get the rewards than for 5-10 players just crush the entire raid.

It mainly goes as said, "to each their own"

Our entire guild is able to participate without any problem. This discussion and guild participation aren't mutually exclusive. But I agree that we all do things a little different and whatever works best for each guild is the right way for them. :)